Origin of Antimatter Cloud Discovered

Active Seti brings us news that astronomers have discovered the origin of an enormous antimatter cloud surrounding the galactic center. Data from the European Space Agency's "Integral" satellite indicated that the cloud's distribution is similar to that of a group of binary star systems containing black holes or neutron stars. From NASA's article: "The cloud itself is roughly 10,000 light-years across, and generates the energy of about 10,000 Suns. The cloud shines brightly in gamma rays due to a reaction governed by Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2. Integral found that the cloud extends farther on the western side of the galactic center than it does on the eastern side. Integral found certain types of binary systems near the galactic center are also skewed to the west. Because the two "pictures" of antimatter and hard low-mass X-ray binaries line up strongly suggests the binaries are producing significant amounts of positrons."

Um...

...I feel stupid saying this, but...
In English, please?

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"The cloud itself is roughly 10,000 light-years across, and generates the energy of about 10,000 Suns. The cloud shines brightly in gamma rays due to a reaction governed by Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2. Integral found that the cloud extends farther on the western side of the galactic center than it does on the eastern side. Integral found certain types of binary systems near the galactic center are also skewed to the west. Because the two "pictures" of antimatter and hard low-mass X-ray binaries line up strongly suggests the binaries are producing significant amounts of positrons."

The cloud of antimatter is big and hot. When matter and antimatter come together they produce lots of Gamma rays, and that is happening. There are certain types of neutron stars or black holes that are orbiting in pairs that appear in the same pattern as the cloud or antimatter (positrons) so astronomers think it is likely that the pairs are causing the cloud.

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...I feel stupid saying this, but...
In English, please?

In the voice of Ollie the Blackucast weatherman:

"CLOUDS GO BOOM!"

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If I weren't heading off to work, I'd tell you the story of Dick (matter) and Jane (antimatter) whose sordid love affair resulted in their eventual meeting and annihilation of their corporeal forms, converting the sum of their body mass into pure energy. Alas, if I were to continue the tale I'd be late for work.
 

Quote hurts my brain!

From TFA:

"We expected something unexpected, but we did not expect this," says Skinner.

I really don't have anything to say about it other than... "huhwhat?" If he said something like "we expected something unexpected, and that's what we got," that would be better. But it's 7am on Monday and that doesn't help in any case.

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Must have been the Spanish Inquisition...

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From TFA:

"We expected something unexpected, but we did not expect this," says Skinner.

I really don't have anything to say about it other than... "huhwhat?" If he said something like "we expected something unexpected, and that's what we got," that would be better.

I'm guessing they were expecting something unexpected but got the Spanish Inquisition instead. A fine astronomy tradition. Even Galileo didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

But it's 7am on Monday and that doesn't help in any case.

Ok ... that statement was unexpected ...

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We expected something unexpected, but we did not expect this

They expected whatever expectorated the radiation was an unexpected source. Yet the expectation that they would find the source of exectoration to be quite so unexpected, that the excited scientists exclaimed that such an extraordinary event was quite unexpected. The exact reason for the non-uniform distribution is still unexplained.

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Man you are NOT helping here! Especially with that extra "expect" type word you put in there. And then you also misspelled it later. And the second sentence is more like a sentence fragment. Clearly this article is hurting a lot of people's brains.

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Man you are NOT helping here! Especially with that extra "expect" type word you put in there. And then you also misspelled it later. And the second sentence is more like a sentence fragment. Clearly this article is hurting a lot of people's brains.


I would eagerly extract and edit the erroneous item. Except the egregeous use of exacting diction to exemplify my etymological interests entails effort. Instead I end it entirely, ere I make an assonance of myself.

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Perhaps the giant gas cloud not only has anti-matter but anti-brain particles as well. The more we look at it and talk about, the more we absorb and the less intelligent and easily confused we'll get. Eventually it will get so bad that....Oh, SHINY!!!

Journalists strike again

Original article [nasa.gov]

As reported by an international team in the January 10 issue of Nature

Today is 11th of January and it is still not on the website. Obviously, the author of the article knows in advance about this publication.

What pisses me off is that he wrote about that in the past tense. Ordinary folks like myself who wanted just to read the peer-reviewed article, not their popularizing crap, are mislead to go there.

Is it that difficult to write "to be published" instead of "published"?

Rant off.

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Ordinary folks like myself who wanted just to read the peer-reviewed article, not their popularizing crap, are mislead to go there.

While I would also prefer the peer reviewed article, you're making the false assumption that we're ordinary folk. Most people want the popularizing crap, not the actual science.

Small Contention

"...governed by Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2."

I think it's important for people to understand that scientific theories and laws don't "govern", they explain things. Einstein's theories don't direct or influence the universe, they're just an observation on how the universe appears to work.

I know correct grammar on the internet has become a huge point of controversy, but when referring to science there's too much public confusion about how things work. Using words like "govern" in relation to scientific theories is a step towards lending credence to Intelligent Design, like scientific laws are control mechanisms of some "Great Designer".

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Fascinating huh? Kinda makes the Microsoft, Linux, BSD, Apple, GPL2, GPL3 flamewars seem pretty insignificant. Not only in the figurative sense, but literally as well since that cloud is immense and very hot from all the matter/antimatter collision.

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That there is antimatter in the wild isn't news per se; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron_emission [wikipedia.org]. It's the amount, imo, that's interresting here. And the way it's being produced.

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And the fact of relative concentration in one place.

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The question is, could that cloud ever form into an anti-matter star?

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No, this anti-matter cannot form stars. According to the Nature paper, the anti-matter is purely positrons. No anti-protons, so it can't form anti-hydrogen. The gist of the paper is: we see lots of gamma rays that correspond to electron-positron annihilations. This glow is not symmetric. It has more or less the same distribution as a class of exotic systems which are capable of producing a lot of energy. If some of that energy is converted into electron/positron pairs, and if the positrons can escape the system and reach the "safety" of interstellar space, they should form a cloud which is about the right shape to match this glow.

Re:east/west???

Why is that any more stupid than eastern and western hemispheres of a planet?

Both designations are arbitrary, but once agreed on they are useful for
communicating, which is sort of what language is for. Just because _you_
don't often need to differentiate between far regions of the galaxy doesn't mean
astronomers don't, and have arranged it so they can.

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It's all of those CFC's causing Galactic Warming.....legislate now! Save the galaxy!

Layne

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Sure, like your "anti-matter credits" are going to do anything to help.

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It's entirely subjective, but the Galaxy does have eastern, western, northern, and southern "sides". You can't find them with a compass but when discussing the structure of the galaxy people have to be able to discern one part from another, and using word

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Probably not much at all would happen to an object traveling through the cloud. I couldn't find any information on how dense the cloud is thought to be, but any "cloud" in space is by its nature going to be extremely diffuse. A few particles impacting a

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If an hypothetical spaceship entered the [antimatter] cloud, I don't know if it will be changed into pure energy almost instantly or not (the violent reaction at the surface of the hull will probably push back the antimatter cloud, and you need the same ma