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Drug Testing Entire Cities at Once
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samzenpus
on Wed Aug 22, 2007 08:59 PM
from the be-careful-where-you-go dept.
from the be-careful-where-you-go dept.
Ellis D. Tripp writes "Researchers have developed a technique for determining what illicit drugs people might be consuming in a given area, by testing a sample from the local sewage treatment plant. As little as a teaspoonful of untreated wastewater can reveal drug use patterns in a given community. Obviously, any drugs found can't be tied to any specific user, but how much longer until the drug warriors want to deploy automatic sampling units farther upstream of the sewage treatment plant?" From the article: "one fairly affluent community scored low for illicit drugs except for cocaine. Cocaine and ecstasy tended to peak on weekends and drop on weekdays, she said, while methamphetamine and prescription drugs were steady throughout the week."
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Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Interesting)
Will there be a need for sewer search warrants in the future? Hmm...
Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Informative)
I wonder, if they start doing more and more extensive tests, could they eventually determine the household in which the drugs come from? What's preventing them from testing the sewer water directly out of a house, instead of a waste plant.
Economics.
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Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Interesting)
The difference being that if you have something incriminating to get rid of, you don't have to throw it in your trash can and leave it on the curb. In essence, the laws on trash are basically that you don't need to be "authorized" in order to pick up garbage, recycle it, dispose of it, reuse it, compost it, etc.
In contrast, people don't generally have an option of what to do with their urine and feces -- for most people, it's leaving the building in a wastewater pipe. And you do need the be licensed out the wazoo and have legal agreements with a homeowner and the state before you can just tap into wastewater outflow.
I suspect it would come down to the "expectation of privacy" standard, and most people don't expect their wastewater can be seen by anyone before it is processed, but it's a normal expectation that anyone can peek in an unsecured garbage can.
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Re:Tracing Of Users? (Score:5, Funny)
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Utah results are in... (Score:5, Funny)
I took a massive dose of LDS... (Score:5, Funny)
I'll never touch the stuff again.
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And most importantly (Score:5, Funny)
Stupidity reaching new lows (Score:5, Funny)
My standing policy for piss testing is they have to collect it orally if they want if from me. Hot from the pipe.
Maybe it COULD be personally identifiable.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Take it one step further: insurance companies who don't want druggie-risks in their system, who might start requiring DNA on file as a condition of being insured.
This has disturbing implications re privacy -- not now, but quite possibly a decade or two from now, especially given the direction the world is headed.
They can have my shit ... (Score:5, Funny)
Drugs by SIC code (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyway, I did a GROUP BY sic code and drug, descending frequency. The highest was construction workers, pot and cocaine. The second highest was school employees, alcohol. This doesn't mean who does what -- this means who gets busted for what in the tests, very different. Everything else was non-clustered.
BTW, the guy had the hottest girls for reception and collecting specimens. I think he hired girls who didn't pass the tests to work for him. Fun girls
Pillheads
And this was posted by none other than.... (Score:5, Funny)
This is just pure coincidence, right?
Z.
This Is A Polutant Thang, Not The Drug War (Score:5, Informative)
Now, water planners have to consider a much wider range of crap, from all the acetaminophen, birth control hormones, caffeine, and - yes - dope we're pissing away, as well as the usual collection of bacteria, viruses, organic matter, pez dispensers, and whatnot. It's not only that you don't want that stuff in the water supply, you don't want it collecting in the fish from the lake, Bambi's mom in the woods, or that water you merely boiled when out camping.
So, an increasing number water districts have to collect this information anyway. All that Fields did was analyze a portion of the data more intently. If your jurisdiction plans to stick a sensor into your waste stream at a point immediately before it commingles with that from your neighbors, you'll know about it 'way ahead of time, because it would be a Major project. Frankly, most water districts are so busy trying to keep everything flowing in the right direction, they couldn't be less interested in wasting time checking on your THC-related metabolic byproducts.
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ADD (Score:5, Interesting)
We all have constant levels in our systems, stable jobs, and interact well in society. Just because someone needs to take these drugs do not mean that we cannot hold a job, or that we are scabs on society... And just because (aside from the THC, which is not addictive) our meds are addictive, does not mean our usage varies, because we take our daily dose as covered by our medical insurance.
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Re:meth (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:So when does privacy end? (Score:5, Insightful)
As much as the "well they are breaking the law/what do you have to hide" appeals to me, [...]
It shoudn't. That's the sort of attitude tyrants depend on.
Just wondering how you guys would draw the line.
Well before the prosecution of victimless crimes like drug use. Alas, the legal system in most countries is far beyond where I would draw the line.
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Re:but..... (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:but..... (Score:5, Informative)
Another interesting application, if they check further upstream, could be identifying areas containing drug labs. Looking for high concentrations of drugs and various manufacturing by-products in the waste stream could identify neighbourhoods containing labs. I used to be vaguely acquainted with a police forensic chemist who told me that they regularly laughed at some of the amphetamine labs they busted - in some cases, 60%-80% of their yield was going down the drain.
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Re:but..... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:The drug profile of my neighborhood's sewage (Score:5, Funny)
Mmmm....tequila.
Next slashdot poll: Favorite tequila
- Cabo Wabo
- Oro Azul
- Don Julio
- Jose Ceurvo
- Sauza
- CabelleroNeal
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Blow Me (Score:5, Insightful)
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