Smarter Teens Have Less Sex 1285
Tech.Luver writes "Gene Expression reports,
"Tyler Cowen quotes from a new study testing the relationship between grades and delayed sexual activity.
Last December I passed a paper along to Razib showing that high-school age adolescents with higher IQs and extremely low IQs were less likely to have had first intercourse than those with average to below average intelligence. (i.e. for males with IQs under 70, 63.3% were still virgins, for those with IQs between 70-90 only 50.2% were virgin, 58.6% were virgins with IQs between 90-110, and 70.3% with IQs over 110 were virgins)
In fact, a more detailed study from 2000 is devoted strictly to this topic, and finds the same thing: Smart Teens Don't Have Sex (or Kiss Much Either). ""
Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdot readers have such high IQs that they realize that sex leads to babies, contraceptives don't work 100%, having intimate contact with some random person is a good way to get disease, and that one should save themselves for a life-partner so that they're ready for the responsibilities that come with sex while simultaneously avoiding the issue of STDs. So they don't have sex as teens.
HAHAHAHA! Isn't that funny?
Anyone?
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:4, Insightful)
HAHAHAHA! Isn't that funny? "
Hehehe...you had me going there for awhile.
Really...it sounds bad, but, I'd almost recommend for teens to have as much sex as possible at that age, just use protection!!!
That is the only time in your life where you'll be able to (in some cases legally) to screw teen girls while everything is tight and where it is supposed to be. Gravity takes a toll on the old human body as you get older. And with people getting obese at earlier and earlier ages....get some fun in while you and potential partners are in good shape.
Especially true for guys. As a teen, you are in your prime and best years for sex...stamina, endurance. Do it now and do it as often with as much variety as you can. In a few short years, you will start going downhill....and your selection of partners will be older and more worn looking too. Enjoy it while it is good, and build those memories.
Sounds really against the grain of normal recommendations, but, as I get older, I realize it is that way. I'm glad I got as much as I did growing up...wish I'd had even more...
So, I say GO for it....you're only young ONCE!!
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That's why they let you buy alcohol once you're 21.
I would really hate to live like that (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Informative)
The odds of a condom breaking are minuscule. If you're living in the United States and you're a heterosexual man, the odds of your partner being infected with HIV are low. The rate of female-to-male HIV transmission for vaginal sex is actually relatively low as well. Put all three of those together, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that sex with a condom is a lot safer than things you probably do every day, such as driving a car.
Risk of HIV is REALLY low (Score:4, Funny)
Condom Split? (Score:5, Informative)
Now let's analyze this attitude. A full 1 million Americans are HIV+ out of a population of 302 million. So there is a 1 in 300 chance that that hot chick you picked up at the bar is HIV+, give or take.
The chance of an HIV+ woman infecting a man through one act of unprotected sex is between 0.1% and 1%. The 1% figure is for men with genital lacerations. Let's take a rate of 0.5%.
Condoms are known to block HIV transmission. The average breakage/slippage rate for condoms is a whopping 4.6% (hello, people! Learn to use the tools!).
Ok. So let's say you pick up a chick at the bar and go home and have protected sex. You are two orders of magnitude more likely to get killed by a car while walking to her house than you are to contract HIV from her.
Hope that helps put things into perspective.
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And abortions are 100% effective.
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Informative)
Ahh someone with no knowledge of biology.
Human fertility isn't 100% during all phased of the cycle. It's not 100%. You must have sex within a week of ovulation till 1-2 days after. So if you have sex, and you did so within a week of ovulation or up to 2 days after (sperm survives for 3 days on average with outliers of 8 days reported, the ova has 1 day to be fertilized afterovulation or it's flushed) and the condom must fail then the ova must implant as well which isn't 100% then you may get pregnant. So under ideal conditions for fertility using a condom means less then 1% of getting pregnant even with the condom breaking.
The averaged out odds for a single encounter is generous 3-5% with unprotected sex fatcoring in the window, the 1/3-1/2 odds then even with a the right conditions the sperm may not meet egg or the fertilized egg may nto implant. So you have 2%*3% in general. = 0.06% if you use a condom factoring the fail rate you gave for trojans and the averaged natural conception rate per encounter.
Add the pill into theequation or even morning after if it's legal where you are and it's pretty unlikely.
Free condoms aren't meant for birth control. (Score:5, Funny)
On our campus, there were two very large mixing bowls on a table, and two cute girls sitting behind said table handing them out.
One way: Grab as many as you can and run. Or just calmly take a whole bowl, muttering about how it won't even last you a week...
Another: Slowly count them out loud as you take them. "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday morning, Wednesday lunch, Wednesday evening, three for all night Wednesday... Thursday, Friday, Saturday..."
Or count them another way: "Jenny, Katie, Sarah -- whoops, better take three for Sarah... Becky, Erin, Samantha..."
Or hang a calendar on your wall and tape them to it, for when people visit. Or make a condom collage! Endless possibilities!
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:4, Interesting)
Looking back- I would say the 29 to 44 were the best ages.
The female brains were now interested in sex. Their bodies were working correctly. Younger girls- you can often do the right things but the wires just are not hooked up yet. A lot of them are trying to just have their first orgasm much less a g-spot or multi.
Most older women can have at three kinds of orgasms (C, G, X) almost constantly for a couple hours.
Some can have six kinds (C, G, Xl, Xr, X, A). So they really like sex and appreciate it. Younger females think they are doing you a favor (which is why you have to do cocky, funny, bust them instead of flattering them to break through that attitude) when they really have a lot more to get out of it than the guy does. And for most guys- it is 15 minutes of male pleasure when the female can have so much more. Guys you can do better- you can easily train yourself over an hour. Just look at it like a journey rather than a destination.
A few bits of advice- Jelqing works so look it up. Tantra works so learn it. Male multi-orgasm is possible and works tho it's bloody difficult and after a couple years it still doesn't work all the time (then again I'm getting older than most of you young pups).
Smart, or studious? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Interesting)
I have a case of asperger's syndrome (And before anyone accuses me of being self-diagnosed, I'd not even heard of it until a therapist diagnosed me).
And, not to sound egotistical, but I like to think that I have above-average intelligence. I'm not a genius, nor a whiz at anything, nor do I have Mensa begging for me to enroll, but I do feel I have sufficient evidence to suggest I'm smarter (using a definition akin to "able to interpret, recall, and use information) than the average 20 year old.
Do I even need to add that I'm a complete virgin? I've never gotten to second base. Or first base. Hell, I didn't get up to bat. I'm not even a benchwarmer. (I just used up all my sports analogies.)
My social skills have improved since grade school, and I'm nowhere near as shy as I used to be (But then again, it's no substitute for real interaction, but spend years online and you do tend to develop a tolerance to mockery and jerks.)
But I've still never had a girlfriend. Not even close. I feel this is due to both a lack of interest, a lack of experience, well below-average social skills, and a lack of eligible bachelorettes (see: Engineering major).
Quite frankly, in my free time between classes at my college I go to the lounge, where I meet a vast number of different people. Most of the females are:
A: taken
B: incompatible with my nature (I don't mind someone having different interests and ideas than me, but SOME common ground is nice.)
C: Bat-shit crazy demons I wouldn't touch with a 39 and a half foot pole, let alone my bare hands.Many of these, in particular, I strongly suspect, are carrying a multitude of STDs, given how much they broadcast the sex they have.
On top of all this lies a series of moral dilemmas, such as giving in to carnal desires when I know the risks, the necessity of intimacy, the risks of getting caught... It just seems too complicated and risky to be worth the effort, especially outside of a relationship. (Not to mention how DISGUSTING sex is, when you REALLY think about it. I mean considering the biological processes involved. Though I'm sure this is lost "in the heat of the moment," it doesn't really make me any more disposed to seeking it out)
On the other hand, take my brother. Bless his soul for all the hard manual labor he does, and helping my father with his business so we didn't go OUT of business when he was injured, etc. But I use more brain power before 6am than he does all day. He admits proudly that he HATES to think and just acts. He's gone through girlfriends like candy and I'm sure has gotten laid more than a few times.
Ultimately, it seems to me that love and sex are purely animalistic and primal desires with little to no logic to them. Thus, those prone to analyzing their actions OVER analyze these things and have less success or less desire or both.
That, and my brother is currently out doing things. I'm on slashdot and going to go play City of Heroes in a while. That may have something to do with it, too.
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Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Funny)
Thanks for debunking the rationale that gets me though the day.
Can't you people let me have anything ...
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Insightful)
If by "first woman" you mean, the first woman to captivate me with her beauty, grace, and intelligence, then I suppose you could say that. Certainly, I was never attracted to the types of airheads that less honorable boys find so easy to "get in the sack". When a girl took several weeks before she finally got the punchline to "there are three types of people in the world", I did not find it charming or cute. I found it horrifying, and would rather have stayed a virgin for the rest of my life than try to build a relationship with someone like that.
If all you want in a mate is someone to have sex with, then that is your choice. I believe that God gave me a brain to think with and make intelligent decisions, not allow my loins to drive me. One of those decisions was staying true to who I am when finding a woman to spend my life with. And wouldn't you know it, the woman I chose was also the type to want more than just a physical relationship. She could have had any man she wanted, but she didn't. She chose me instead.
A relationship like that makes one remember how unique that other person is. And how important it is to make the time, put in the effort, and give the attention necessary to keep that relationship thriving over the years.
It's easy for me to give a flippant answer to a flippant statement, but I'd rather say something that will actually *help* people. And if there is one thing I can say, it's this: Relationships are about commitment. The best method of telling if someone is for you or not is not their looks or any "compatibility" tests. It's asking yourself if you're willing to devote the rest of your life to them and them to you. THAT is the true test of a relationship.
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I don't think you intended to say she chose someone she didn't want :)
In any case, I agree with you. All it takes is 1 or 2 really bad relationships to show you that the best alternative to a good relationship is to be alone. I'm not saying you should hold out for a perfect person (there is no such thing) but focus instead on the qualities of character. Personality, intelligence, humor, etc. is much more important than looks, because honestly... after 40+ years of marriage, s/he isn't going to look all that hot anyway. If you marry someone who is hot but stupid and shallow... after a few decades they'll by ugly, stupid and shallow. Trust me on this.
Re:Queue Slashdot Reader Love Life Jokes (Score:5, Funny)
She must read Slashdot and know your alias.
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Re:Missing Variable (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Missing Variable (Score:5, Insightful)
There is also an unfortunate misconception: nerds and geeks aren't just smart people. They're smart people with social deficits and, often, low cultural capital. There are smart people who are also popular, charismatic, and confident.
Life's not fair.
Re:Missing Variable (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, at Caltech the ratio is about 70:30
And it's about 50:50 by weight...
ohh (Score:5, Funny)
Re:ohh (Score:5, Funny)
Well, then I must have been ultrasmart... :(
Or extremely stupid. ;)
Re:ohh (Score:5, Funny)
Or ugly...don't forget looks count too.
Although, money makes up for a lot of ugly....
That's 'cause... (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:That's 'cause... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:That's 'cause... (Score:5, Funny)
Not me (Score:5, Funny)
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Bad news for slashdotters (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Bad news for slashdotters (Score:5, Funny)
Since slashdotters have typically IQ in the range of 160 to 220, the will remain virgins till age 72 or so by my extrapolation.
So you're saying that based on the average Slashdot post, you would assign an IQ of 160 to 220 to the general Slashdot population. I assume you're joking. (People with Mod points, however, are actually extremely intelligent and discerning.)
Re:Bad news for slashdotters (Score:5, Funny)
So you are saying they don't get laid?
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Re:Bad news for slashdotters (Score:4, Insightful)
Leave it to a grammar Nazi to find the silver lining.
Idiocracy (Score:5, Insightful)
Converse not true (Score:5, Funny)
Converse is statistically true (Score:5, Informative)
Not quite (Score:4, Interesting)
If groups with different IQs have different sex habits, and I learn about your sex habits, then by using Bayes' theorem I can also make inferences about your IQ. Obviously just statistical inferences ("he has less sex, therefore, he is more likely to be smart"), but still.
Except that the change happens in both directions away from the average, so the most you can make is a statistical inference about how far from the norm they probably are, rather than in which direction.
Re:Not quite (Score:5, Insightful)
That's a lot of connections, so I'm not surprised that it's not brought out. Nevertheless, IQ as a measure may just be a proxy for an underlying mechanism.
Could be true (Score:5, Interesting)
But... (Score:5, Funny)
That explains... (Score:5, Funny)
That explains the mouth-breathing 14 year olds pushing their babies in strollers and carrying another in their belly I see lumbering around downtown Winnipeg at lunch. They should coat welfare cheques with birth control hormones.
Re:That explains... (Score:5, Funny)
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In Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM, 5000 year history), mouth breathing is considered indicative of the central & governing meridians being 'unhooked'. The Central Meridian runs from the pubic bone up the front of the body, while the Governing Meridian runs from the tailbone up the spine and over the top of the head. They meet where the tip of the tongue touches the roof of the mouth.
Mouth breathing is something that needs to be fixed. Donna Eden [innersource.net] (w
Re:For a second there... (Score:5, Insightful)
Think of it this way, if everyone was as smart as you and me, we would just be of average intelligence.
Re:That explains... (Score:5, Insightful)
If only laws [du.edu] prevented that! Surely eugenics [beloit.edu] is the answer, or perhaps some other form of law [wikipedia.org] to keep the higher-quality people from those lower-quality ones.
They're going to spend the rest of their miserable, worthless lives on welfare, no doubt failing to raise their bastard kids properly.
Who are you to say that their lives will be miserable and worthless? To those living them, perhaps their lives are rich and provide emotional sustenance, or seem worthy and interesting. It is dangerous to try and judge someone from the outside, and if you hold the rest of humanity in such low regard, perhaps you should think about what is happening in your own life that you castigate others as you do.
Robertson Davies [wordpress.com] sometimes writes about such people who are left behind by time or technology or society, and writes about them with great sympathy. In The Cunning Man [wordpress.com] a doctor treats patients with more than just science, and in Conversation with Robertson Davies this exchange occurs:
I will lament that my penis has by then received so little use.
Most women, I suspect, would choose a carefree bad boy over an angry, uptight Republican with a chip on his shoulder; Dan Savage [thestranger.com] makes a similar point in some of his columns. If you think ignorant fools can get laid so easily but someone as perspicacious as you wants to and can't, who is smart?
Somethings wrong.. (Score:5, Funny)
A usefull vote for a change (Score:5, Funny)
How old were you, the first time you had sex:
Below 15
15
16
17
18
19+
What is sex??
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Re:A usefull vote for a change (Score:5, Funny)
Below 15
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19+
I'm saving myself for CowboyNeal (you insensitive clod!)
Re:A usefull vote for a change (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A usefull vote for a change (Score:5, Funny)
There, just to be sure. There are a lot of strange people surfin' round on the intarweb
Re:A usefull vote for a change (Score:5, Funny)
The poll needs to start at 19, and go to at least 25.
And no, I'm not only saying this because I was a virgin until 23.
Re:A usefull vote for a change (Score:4, Funny)
Only proves which kids will *say* they've had sex (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Only proves which kids will *say* they've had s (Score:4, Insightful)
Teenagers with low IQ normally are not left alone to do what they will. Because parents don't trust them to do the smart thing because they arn't, combined with the fact they get usually get extra adult help means less exposure with other kids, and the oposit sex feels guilty about sexual activity with that group, so combined that will make a lower rate.
High IQ teens stop and think and realize that risks of Sex as a teenager (STD, Pregnacny) will get in away with their life plans being with higher IQ society expects more from them with their life plans so they stay away from such risks. Basicly I am not going to let a Baby get in my way to become a doctor. After I get my degree and a steady job then I may focus on having a family, Logical reasoning by people with higher IQ.
Teens in the middle are not pressured to become a Doctor or whatever so they have less ambitions for life and figure it may be worth the risk. Combined with the fact they may not think things fully out and let biological pressures take over what people say they should do.
Re:Only proves which kids will *say* they've had s (Score:5, Insightful)
yeah, right, i didn't WANT any girls to pay attention to me! that's it!
you've got to be kidding me.
Re:Only proves which kids will *say* they've had s (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Only proves which kids will *say* they've had s (Score:5, Funny)
Given the poor spelling, random capitalization, and generally dreadful grammar, I can draw only one conclusion: You must have gotten tons of action in high school.
quotes of quotes of quotes (Score:5, Funny)
Cmdr Taco posts that:
Tech_Luver writes that:
Gene Expression reports that:
Tyler Cowen quotes from a:
Razib paper showing that:
A survey found that:
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I'm worried that if I tell someone that I read about this on slashdot, the universe might implode.
Worse than it used to be (Score:5, Interesting)
Man, I wish I was born in the Victorian era. Sigh.
Peter
Re:Worse than it used to be (Score:4, Informative)
Ask and you shall receive [cnn.com].
Re:Worse than it used to be (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's not forget that women of intellect weren't well valued either. Famous women scientists were considered a fascinating aberration but not the kind of girl you'd want to marry -- after all men were expected to be the heads of the family, and you wouldn't want too "headstrong" and "independent" of a woman.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Girls steer clear of us... (Score:5, Funny)
Cheers!
I'm sorry, but so what? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm in my mid-twenties, and I didn't have sex until the very end of high school, and didn't date at all, and I seriously don't feel like I missed out on a damn thing. Sex when I was 18 was awkward and boring, I can't imagine the kind of horrible flopping around I would have had if I had been 14 or 15.
I know we live in an ephebophilic society where your teenage years are supposed to be when the best years of anyone's life, but let's all be honest here: Being a teenager sucks. You can't drive, you can't drink without having to sneak around, you're kind of an idiot, you don't know what the hell you're doing when it comes to members of the opposite sex, and that's not even starting to mention acne, braces and a bad fashion sense. I much prefer my twenties, and I'm looking forward to my thirties. I'm having a great time compared to ten years ago.
So maybe being smart and not having sex in high school isn't that groundbreaking of a correlation. Why is it so important to have any sex when you're in high school anyways? Shouldn't it be more important to have good sex when you're older? Where's the study on sex lives of single smart twenty- and thirty-somethings? I'd be interested in that study.
P.S. Watch the "abstinence only" crowd use this as ammunition: "See! Smart teenagers choose abstinence!"
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I'm in my thirties. I've got to tell you, the 20s were pretty darn good. And if you're a teenager who realizes his limitations and is willing to have fun, despite the awkwardness, you have fun too -- no matter what you're doing.
It seems to me that
Re:I'm sorry, but so what? (Score:4, Funny)
To Quote... (Score:5, Interesting)
Now if I could only remember who said that...
My theory on why... (Score:5, Insightful)
1. Smarter teens believe that sex can be risky. Namely: Unwanted pregnancy, disease, emotional distress and not to mention social pressures from parents.
2. Smarter teens may have higher standards as they are able to distinguish better between "good mate" and "not so good mate."
2a. Finding a good mate may mean finding an intellectual equal.
3. A deep fulfilling intellectual and emotional relationship may be more important than and a prerequisite to simple sexual pleasure.
Probably a couple of factors... (Score:5, Insightful)
Although this is nothing whatsoever against the person who this happened with, even after losing my virginity, I can remember thinking of that experience, while reasonably enjoyable and positive, as not seeming to deserve anything like the degree of hype that most people associate with the act. Most of the people I've known seem to regard sex as being the pinnacle of human experience, and that is an attitude which I find deeply sad.
I know that a predictable response to this will probably be to speculate that I am in fact homosexual, but I do not believe that to be the case, and to be honest, that is something else about the customary attitude towards sex that I find deeply pathetic. Namely the idea that if a person doesn't have one preference, then they *must* by definition have another, because not being helplessly addicted to sex in either straight or gay form is supposedly completely impossible...in most people's minds, it just doesn't compute.
Some of us honestly view reproduction as being the domain of animals. Given that we have more than enough other human beings who are quite happy to devote their own lives to that activity, this means that those of us who have that attitude are also able to persue the expansion and enhancement of our minds, without fear as to the possible consequences to the human population.
If you're someone for whom sex is the most important element of your existence, I'd strongly advocate getting a life.
Re:Probably a couple of factors... (Score:5, Insightful)
There it is. If you were being completely honest with yourself, you'd admit that you think your ability to do without sex makes you more evolved, more developed. That sentence displays your thinking quite obviously.
Sadly for you, that's ridiculous. Sex is a wonderful, pleasant, somewhat messy, but ultimately fantastic part of the human experience. Missing out on it is not something to be celebrated.
Yours is the classic sour grapes position. If I can't have it, it wasn't that good anyway.
A counter view (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll just point out that from a scientific perspective, we are animals, and from a genetic point of view, reproduction is the pinnacle of our existence. From an evolutionary standpoint, there's not much purpose to our lives if we don't pass on our genes. I know that not every smart person is scientifically inclined, but I think it's safe to say that scientific understanding takes intelligence. It is not unintelligent to recognize the importance of sex in human lives.
From a non-scientific standpoint, I think there is an important debate, common to us all, about what provides the greatest satisfaction and enjoyment (and meaning) in life. Is it achievement, or is it connection? I think it's safe to say that you'll find many smart, successful people who nevertheless believe that their love and family is the most satisfying and important part of their lives. The idea that sex/achievement is a binary choice is false. Einstein and Hemingway and Picasso (and etc) all had lovers.
From a strictly physical standpoint, sex can create feelings that are unachievable any other way. But the same is true from an emotional standpoint as well--there's no closer emotional connection that can be made to another person. Physical intimacy is the distinguishing characteristic of love, of partner from friend. I don't find anything sad about that.
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Sounds About Right to Me (Score:5, Interesting)
I live in the UK, but the answer in my case is all of the people I could think of scarily. I caught up with a few people from High School not long ago, and the stuff that's happened to many of the people from school who concentrated on sex and immature relationships is shocking. It's a tale of divorce, single motherhood, poverty and immaturity. These people also tend to be extremely crap at romantic and sexual relationships when they're older, as well as pretty immature. Taking one example, how many people in their late twenties think that getting married to someone you only met six months ago, divorcing that person a few years later, getting back together with an ex a few months after said divorce and having a baby with that person after only a few weeks or months of being together is mature? They still act like 15 year olds, and in some cases, worse.
As for me, I have a good job with good money, working with people who I like and get on with, I have a lovely girlfriend and I'm still as horny as hell from all that High School abstinence
Seriously though, looking around from my own personal experience, scarily, I think a whole social underclass is being created. I also think this is largely responsible for the increase in divorce, the increase in single motherhood and the inevitable problems for their children that has brought with it. Those having sex in High School generally just aren't mature enough to handle sex, and that's setting them up for life.
It's called a bell curve (Score:4, Informative)
The act of sexual intercourse is a very natural human instinct. I would bet that a majority of people out there have sex, or at least have had sex at some point.
In theory, 50% of the people out there, teens or otherwise, are in the middle of the intelligence spectrum. The remainder of the population naturally gravitate to one of the other extremes.
Now, by definition, people approaching either extreme of the curve are increasingly further away from the 'average middle'.
I don't have handy any information about what the personal habits of 'non-normal' people are (when plotted across a curve of intelligence), but since the mind is perhaps our singular most defining feature as a species, I would hypothesize that people of average intelligence behave in very average ways.
Since sexual intercourse is a 'normal' or 'average' behavior, I bet that most of the people with 'normal' or 'average' intelligence participate in the act according to the average frequency of their peers.
I would also hypothesize that deviations from 'average' intelligence on either side of the curve change a great many behavioral characteristics. Since sexual behavior is (in my opinion) a baser, hard-wired bit of evolutionary programming, no doubt intelligence has some relationship with sexual behavior.
A lot of the relationship here, though is probably due to basic statistics and very difficult-to-quantify variables. A majority of people behave as the majority of people do.
Germans knew this for a long time... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I Believe... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I Believe... (Score:5, Insightful)
What you know and your IQ actually tend to hurt your chances.
I hate to burst the geek bubble but it's truth.
want proof? WOZ is a rich geek but never was upper management.
Gates was never a geek, he was a poser and the face man. (sorry gate's early code is horrible and first year quality) he had business sense and knew people as well as has social skills in a bizzare way.
Jobs = Face man he is the guy that makes you like him so much you will sell him your stuff at cost or buy his product by standing in a line outside for hours when there is no supply problems.
If you are a geek and high IQ I STRONGLY suggest taking etiquette classes, social interaction classes and do everything in your power to have the knowledge to fake being good at party socializing. You have to be the guy that everyone loves in the first 15 minutes of meeting them. Speak eloquently, be good at faking that you really are interested in how well her pedicure went and how that CEO of that company had a horrifying day because he had to way 30 minutes for road service to show up and fix his flat tire.
Crack the code of socalizing, get that one done and you will become upper management.
Re:I Believe... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Smarter Teens Have Less Sex (Score:4, Interesting)
Re: Smarter Teens Have Less Sex (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm not quite sure what grades are a good measure of. Being able to color inside the lines? Following instructions and memorizing facts? Rarely they can measure understanding and creativity, but that's highly dependent on the skill of the instructor creating the assignments.
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I'm sure other studies have shown that smarter kids, on average, come from better off parents, financially speaking. Being that these kids aren't dumb they see the downfall of parenthood at the time that they should be headed off to further education and career building.
Coming from a school district where we have the haves and have nots pretty well represented it never surprised me to find the lower
Re:The question (Score:5, Funny)
I'll go cry now.
Re:The question (Score:5, Insightful)
At your age, you should be taking in as many new experiences as you can. There won't be many other times in your life where you are as unencumbered by obligations and responsibilities.
Re:The question (Score:5, Insightful)
One day you're going to meet someone you love and respect and want to stay with forever. You want to "sow your wild oats" before that, or you'll spend the rest of your life wondering what sex with other women would be like. It's a lot easer to know you've made the right choice when you've tried a few of the other options.
Re:The question (Score:5, Insightful)
I lost my virginity to my wife two years before we got married. I wasn't disappointed in the least. And I've never once regretted the fact that the only sexual experiences I've had have been meaningful and fulfilling.
Once you've made love with someone you truly love for a few years, the act itself becomes increasingly less important, in my experience. It's not about the sex, it's about sharing the experience with someone who I'm very close to. Sure, at a very base, primal level, I'm curious about sex with other women. But then I realize that sex without the love that my wife and I share could never be as fulfilling, period.
I understand that not every guy is like that. Some guys will spend their whole lives sowing their wild oats. Different strokes for different folks. I won't judge those people for living their lives the way they see fit. I just ask that you return the favor.
Re:The question (Score:4, Funny)
Cheers!
Re:Evolution in Action (Score:5, Funny)
Of course not, but mostly because it's really hard to find someone smarter than me.
Re:This is a good thing (Score:5, Insightful)
But there's only so much time for sex with teenagers. Get it while you can guys.
Re:This is a good thing (Score:4, Insightful)
Now I'm not saying they don't catch any deviants. Obviously they do. There's a lot of social conditioning against our natural desires, and it takes someone somewhat deviant to ignore that. I'm just saying that these guys are not sick freaks because they want to have sex with teenagers. Most of them are just lonely people with natural desires who think they've found a willing partner and made the wrong decision. The way they are treated by Dateline, the legal system, and the general public is more disgusting than anything they'd do with a willing partner.
Re:I must be a fucking genious!!! (Score:5, Funny)
Which just goes to show - regardless of what those Wild Co-eds On Spring Break Woo-Hoo! videos seem to show, it's just as hard to get some if you're a lesbian.
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Not to pry, but... how do you know?