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ISS Goes Solar

Posted by samzenpus on Wed Jun 13, 2007 07:29 PM
from the no-clouds-in-space dept.
SumDog writes "The international space station's newest power source, a set of solar wings, made its debut yesterday. The solar array is part of a new 17.5-ton space station segment that was connected to the orbiting outpost during a spacewalk Monday."

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  • It's good to see ... (Score:5, Funny)

    by WrongSizeGlass (838941) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:32PM (#19499085) Homepage
    ... solar power finally working its way into our everyday lives.
    • Re:It's good to see ... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by malsdavis (542216) on Thursday June 14 2007, @12:12AM (#19501111)
      I'd like to know the realistic reasons why solar power isn't far more prevalent as a source of power generation, particularly on a local/household scale. Why are solar panels still so expensive?
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        Just use the earth tether like they did before they got the solar panels, duh!
  • Wait... (Score:5, Funny)

    by kmac06 (608921) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:39PM (#19499149)
    So the one place where greenhouse gas emissions don't matter uses renewable energy? :P
    • Re:Wait... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rednip (186217) <rednip@nospam.gmail.com> on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:48PM (#19499239) Journal

      So the one place where greenhouse gas emissions don't matter uses renewable energy?

      If you think that the price of gas is expensive at the boat dock, you should see the bill for delivering a tankful 200 miles in the sky.

      [ Parent ]
            • Re:Wait... (Score:4, Insightful)

              by Original Replica (908688) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @09:47PM (#19500157) Journal
              Sure, but his comment is about green house gas emissions, not the price($) of anything.

              The main reason to not want to emit greenhouse gases is the "cost" of global warming. You will notice that people who view that cost as very high: already use solar panels and live "off the grid", and people who think that cost is a joke: drive Hummers with the A/C on and the windows down. NASA, like everyone else, is going with the lowest percieved cost.
              [ Parent ]
  • Off Grid? (Score:5, Funny)

    by QuantumRiff (120817) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:40PM (#19499153)
    So when do they get enough Solar Panels to go "Off Grid"?

    <ducks>

    Thank you, I'll be here all week!
  • Well (Score:4, Informative)

    by rbanffy (584143) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:41PM (#19499161) Homepage
    Didn't the ISS already run on solar power?

    I mean... Tree-huggers everywhere would have been screaming for years if it did run on nuclear (and, quite probably, we don't have the required technology anyway).
    • Re:Well (Score:4, Informative)

      by Jugalator (259273) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:42PM (#19499173) Journal
      Yes, it did, but now it has more power than ever before!

      To give sufficient power for the upcoming components and experiments.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Well (Score:4, Insightful)

        by ari_j (90255) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @09:14PM (#19499937) Homepage
        That's just it ... "goes solar" implies that this is the first set of solar panels on the station, which is patently false. Nothing in the blurb corrects the misstatement, either. That's annoying.
        [ Parent ]
    • Nuclear power and spacecraft (Score:5, Informative)

      by Fuji Kitakyusho (847520) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:01PM (#19499381)
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Well (Score:4, Funny)

        by Dunbal (464142) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @09:54PM (#19500201)
        Apparently they've become so efficient that the enormous distance to the Sun ceases to become a problem.

              Or at least that's what the manufacturer says. And if you had a $40 M contract you'd say the same. We'll only really find out in 30 years when the guy in charge of the probe suddenly goes "where the hell did my probe go?" one Wednesday morning.

              All your voltage are belong to us.
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Well (Score:5, Insightful)

        by confused one (671304) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @11:12PM (#19500779)

        Juno is slated to go into Jupiter orbit. Solar may be useable out to Jupiter. The panels have to increase in size proportional to the distance from the sun squared... The weight increases exponentially. To reach past Jupiter it becomes impossible (practically) to launch that much mass from the ground. If you want 1kW of power at Saturn or maybe the Kuiper belt you have to use nuclear. If Voyager 1 and 2, launched in 1977, were powered by solar, even using these new panels, we would not still be receiving telemetry from it. Voyager 1 is currently is currently 18 times farther from the sun than Jupiter. Voyager 2 is currently 15 times farther from the sun than Jupiter. Both are studying the boundary of our solar system.

        Yeah, I suspect much of the advances in solar technology have come out of NASA's budget. This is the kind of area where NASA and DOE spending feeds back obvious results.

        I get frustrated as well when people protest launching nuclear powered spacecraft. The probability of an accident is extremely small. The probability of that accident affecting populated areas is smaller. The effect would be insignificant barring an explosion at the launch tower; and, that would be contained to the area around the base. If people are going to make the argument against, I wish they would do it with real numbers. If you're going to argue that "it's bad" then show me how bad and show me how that level of "bad" compares to the safety standards...

        I do like this link

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RTG_radiation_m easurement.jpg [wikipedia.org]
        [ Parent ]
  • Make them bigger.... (Score:4, Funny)

    by camperslo (704715) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:42PM (#19499169)
    ...a giant shade to reduce global warming
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:43PM (#19499189)
    Steam?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      No, a really long extension cord. Kept getting tangled on Everest though.
  • Here's a real link. (Score:5, Informative)

    by pavon (30274) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:50PM (#19499253)
    Here is a link to a story [space.com] with a little more content and pictures of the new unfurled solar panels.
  • by Nymz (905908) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @07:52PM (#19499275) Journal
    During the installation, one the navigation computers had a glitch that caused false fire alarms and a loss of gyroscope control, which sent the station spinning [slashdot.org] out of control. Only thanks to a hack were they able to bypass the Russian functions, and get the gyroscopes working again.

    If the station couldn't align the solar panels toward the sun for each days charge, then it would only be a matter of time before the batteries died, and without power nothing on the station will work, nothing.
  • The best source of information. (Score:5, Informative)

    by GreggBz (777373) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:29PM (#19499589) Homepage
    So why do these stories about NASA, the ISS etc.. so rarely link to nasa.gov?

    You can go here [nasa.gov] and get much better, more detailed information about the solar panels, the crew, the rest of the mission, watch live video, etc. Your tax dollars pay for it, you should use it.

    It is the most comprehensive site for news in information regarding, imagine this, NASA. The only instance where it's probably not appropriate is when there is some requirement for investigative reporting, otherwise, things like the Boston Globe are likely to give the watered down, science lite AP version of what NASA tells them.

  • A far cooler aspect. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Lumpy (12016) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @09:54PM (#19500195) Homepage
    Check when the ISS will be overhead and illuminated by the sun. You can with a pair of good binoculars and SEE the ISS as a shape now instead of a dot of light with the Panels Deployed.

    Incredibly cool to be able to see something in space and visually identify it.
    • by Boilermaker84 (896573) on Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:48PM (#19499721)
      The blanket doesn't pose a risk of catastrophic failure to the vehicle (i.e. no repeat of Columbia), but the Mission Management Team is trying to minimize any damage to the OMS pod that would delay processing for the next mission. If they leave the blanket as is (without stapling it back in place, which is what they plan to do), there is a risk of doing damage to the pod that would delay processing for Atlantis's next mission in December.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      lol yeah, at least on earth you can get a good 12 hours out of solar panels. But what can you do with just 45 minutes? :-)