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Could You Be Addicted to the Internet?

Journal written by Billosaur (927319) and posted by Zonk on Fri Sep 22, 2006 05:53 PM
from the all-part-of-the-job-description dept.
Billosaur writes "Over at The Register, Dr Stephen Juan has this interesting article on Internet Addiction Disorder (IAD). Apparently this has been around since at least 1995 and there are those lobbying for it to be included in the DSM-IV. While some people use the Internet a lot for work or to keep in touch with family & friends as well as banking and bill-paying, it's interesting to thing that some people actually become addicted. There's still a lot of controversy over the diagnosis, whether this is true addiction or not. There is more detailed information available in this paper from Viriginia Tech."

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  • Internet? (Score:3, Funny)

    by InterBigs (780612) on Friday September 22 2006, @05:55PM (#16163686)
    What is this Internet you speak of?
      • Re:Internet? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by anagama (611277) <thepotter@yahoo. ... minus herbivore> on Friday September 22 2006, @06:33PM (#16163884) Homepage
        Tubes? What about the boob-tube? I spend a lot of time on the internet. By the same token, I spend almost no time watching television -- I see DVDs from time to time -- no cable, no antenna, just a DVD player connected to the TV, and yeah, call me an elitist I don't care. Anyway, why does the internet get bashed for being addicting, but television doesn't? Some people watch 5 or 6 hours of TV each day and yet I rarely see articles about how addictive TV is. "Internet Addiction" is just another way to bash the net as an evil place by those who either don't understand its utility, or don't want people to understand its utility.
        [ Parent ]
        • Re:Internet? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland @ y a h o o . com> on Friday September 22 2006, @06:49PM (#16163965) Homepage Journal
          television does get bashed for being addictive, but this report is about the internet, not TV.

          ""Internet Addiction" is just another way to bash the net as an evil place by those who either don't understand its utility, or don't want people to understand its utility"

          no, internet addiction is when people turn to the internet even to the point where it is harmfull to them financially or socially.

          Why would you think the internet would be an exception to everything else when it comes to addictions?
          [ Parent ]
  • is the title a rhetorical question? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ChristTrekker (91442) on Friday September 22 2006, @05:57PM (#16163697)

    The answer is so obviously "yes" in this audience. Was there any doubt? Why even ask?

  • I love it... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by crazyjeremy (857410) * on Friday September 22 2006, @05:57PM (#16163700) Homepage Journal
    Apparently it's been around since at least 1995... It's like saying Car Wrecks have been happening since the early 20th century. Duh! That's about when it started!
  • I know I am (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Terminal Saint (668751) on Friday September 22 2006, @05:58PM (#16163703)
    I'm also addicted to my car. Darned if a day goes by that I don't use it to get somewhere too far to walk.

    Just because you use something often doesn't mean it's an addiction.
    • Re:I know I am (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TubeSteak (669689) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:07PM (#16163753) Journal
      I'm also addicted to my car. Darned if a day goes by that I don't use it to get somewhere too far to walk.

      Just because you use something often doesn't mean it's an addiction.
      If not driving causes you anxiety, then you're addicted.

      Ditto for e-mail, browsing fark, /. or whatever other 'thing' on the internet that you just can't live without.

      And you actually can get addicted to something like walking, running, biking or driving. Just because you aren't does not mean that others haven't been addicted.
      [ Parent ]
      • Let's look at behaviour. (Score:4, Insightful)

        by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Friday September 22 2006, @06:24PM (#16163837)
        Drugs - addictive. People will rob other people for money to buy drugs. People will prostitute themselves for money to buy drugs. People will even kill at times for money to buy drugs.

        The Internet - Guys (since most of you are), how long would you have to go without email before you'd have sex with another guy for $5 so you could use an Internet Cafe? (That's if you wouldn't do it for free, anyway.)

        Okay, so the Internet is NOT addictive the same way as drugs are.

        Cigarettes. Those are addictive. Now, apply the same behavioural process. What would you do for money to buy cigarettes that you would not do for money to buy a CD?

        Would you do the same thing(s) for 30 minutes of Internet access?

        Okay, so the Internet is NOT addictive the same way cigarettes are.

        And so on and so forth. Until you get to the point where the Internet is no more "addictive" than telephones or television or radio.
        [ Parent ]
    • by spun (1352) <loverevolutionary AT yahoo DOT com> on Friday September 22 2006, @06:32PM (#16163881) Journal
      Dear Slashdot,

      I'm addicted to calling everything and anything that people enjoy doing an addiction. I get wads of cash for treating these so-called addictions, and I have a powerful co-enabler called the pharmaceutical industry telling me it's all okay and I should keep doing it. What should I do?

      Signed,
      I'll take 'The Rapists' for $500, Alex.

      (Please, if there are any psychologists or psychiatrists who read Slashdot, don't have me committed. It's a joke, m'kay?)
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:I know I am (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Mark Gordon (14545) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:35PM (#16163893) Homepage
      Consider the more detailed paper, with s/Internet/foo/ applied:

      To be diagnosed as having foo Addiction Disorder, a person must meet certain
      criteria as prescribed by the American Psychiatric Association. Three or more of these
      criteria must be present at any time during a twelve month period:

      2. Two or more withdrawal symptoms developing within days to one month after
      reduction of foo or cessation of foo (i.e., quitting cold turkey) , and these
      must cause distress or impair social, personal or occupational functioning. These include:
      psychomotor agitation, i.e. trembling, tremors; anxiety; obsessive thinking about what is
      happening with respect to foo; fantasies or dreams about foo; voluntary or involuntary
      imitation of the movements characteristic of foo.

      (the mere act of thinking about foo while not engaged in foo presumably qualifies as "fantasies")

      3. Use of the Internet is engaged in to relieve or avoid withdrawal symptoms.

      (if thinking about foo qualifies as withdrawal, then engaging in foo qualifies as relief of withdrawal)

      5. A significant amount of time is spent in activities related to foo.

      By this standard of addiction, any activity which one both considers ("fantasies") and practices, and which occupies a significant amount of time (even if it's simply liesure time), qualifies as an addiction.

      Seems like a pretty broken definition to me.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:I know I am (Score:5, Funny)

        by eln (21727) * on Friday September 22 2006, @07:03PM (#16164036)
        Your post has made me realize that I am addicted to foo. Where can I find information about Fooaholics Anonymous groups in my area?
        [ Parent ]
  • Symptoms list is s/alcohol/internet (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RobertB-DC (622190) * on Friday September 22 2006, @06:00PM (#16163709) Homepage Journal
    Really, it's pretty pitiful. It looks like all the "research" entailed was to substitute the word "internet" for "alcohol". Here are just a few of their "symptoms":
    * Internet engagement used as a way of escaping problems or relieving feelings of guilt, helplessness, anxiety, or depression.
    * Concealing from or lying to family members about the extent of internet use.
    * Internet user driven to financial difficulty due to incurring unaffordable internet fees.

    Isn't that last one just teh stupid? It's cribbed word-for-word from a typical symptom of alcholism, as are the rest.

    Even if there are still ISPs in the world that charge by the MB, it just doesn't fly. Now, if they were talking about "unexpected" credit card charges, maybe... but pr0n addiction .NE. internet "addiction".
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      I couldn't stand the thought of being without internet in any part of my house, so I had a seperate DSL line hooked up to every room in the place. A short time later, a friend tried to explain to me the concept of hubs and switches, but I was too drunk on
  • Maybe yes, maybe no... (Score:5, Funny)

    by kclittle (625128) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:00PM (#16163715)
    Maybe I'm addicted to the Internet, maybe not. But it sure has eliminated my TV and newspaper habit...
  • "Fetal Internet Syndrome" (Score:5, Funny)

    by tlambert (566799) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:02PM (#16163724)
    I think there's also an as yet undiscussed "Fetal Internet Syndrome"...

    My friends new Windows box is addicted, and it was never exposed, new from the store... computers with this syndrome have serious mental lapses if they can't get on the Internet to chat with Microsoft in the first thiry days after being turned on, and on a regular basis after that.

    -- Terry
  • One sign of addiction (Score:5, Funny)

    by Eightyford (893696) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:02PM (#16163728) Homepage
    If you refresh your Slashdot user page every 30 seconds to see if you have received any replies, you might be addicted to the internet.
  • Can't ANYTHING be addictive? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by starseeker (141897) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:04PM (#16163739) Homepage
    I'm not a medical person so perhaps there is some criteria I'm not familiar with, but isn't addictive behavior pretty much the same regardless of what someone is addicted to? Is the question whether the "addiction" is chemically based vs. simply being socially based? (For example, if a nerd likes playing Quake for 16 hours a day instead of interacting normally with the human race, does that constitute addiction or just different mental software?)

    I mean really, if addiction is defined as depending on the chemicals that are generated when we feel "good" wouldn't an excess of ANYTHING that makes us feel "good" be a candidate for a cause? And wouldn't it be expected that potential causes of addiction depend on the individual? Some are obvious and would impact virtually anyone (chemical manipulation) but other behaviors which don't directly alter mood via chemical means I would intuitively expect to be more subtle.

    Heh, maybe anti-social people (not the angry, dangerous wackos but those who are just indifferent to and/or dislike social situations) would argue that the rest of us are addicted to social interaction. ;-) The rest of us would probably take issue with that, but really what objective criteria would be used to have the argument?

    Anybody with a medical degree around here that can point to some definitive definition of the word "addiction" and what it means, medically?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      I can think of a few things that can't possibly be very addictive:


      - Jumping off of very tall cliffs
      - Swimming with hungry sharks
      - Watching "Dancing with the Stars"


      Especially the last one; eventually I would have no choice but to poke out my eyeballs or go

  • by iamacat (583406) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:11PM (#16163782)
    How many people spend all their spare time glued to TV? Internet and even MMORG addicts lead comparatively more productive lives by staying in touch with friends, creating new content and reading/watching stuff way more meaningful than TV programming. Unless one actually gets out of all manmade stuff and takes a walk in the woods, is living in virtual reality really any worse than how most people spend time?
  • Like my friends who take drugs say. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Buzz_Litebeer (539463) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:15PM (#16163801) Journal
    I can stop if I want to.

    I just dont want to, and you arent going to convince me to stop. :-)
  • No. (Score:4, Informative)

    by ph0rk (118461) on Friday September 22 2006, @06:52PM (#16163982)
    IAD is a sham. The original test instruments 'developed' by young inclided items lifted right from similar instruments for gambling and substance abuse, with such gems as (paraphrase, I don't have the original measure handy) 'do you often use the internet by yourself?' and more than 10 hours a week as unhealthy. The criteria listed here http://www.psycom.net/iadcriteria.html [psycom.net] are similarly laughable: "(e) voluntary or involuntary typing movements of the fingers".

    And, perhaps the crux: "(VII) Internet use is continued despite knowledge of having a persistent or recurrent physical, family, social, occupational, or psychological problem that is likely to have been caused or exacerbated by Internet use (e.g., sleep deprivation, marital difficulties, lateness for early morning appointments, neglect of occupational duties, or feelings of abandonment in significant others)"

    I'm not saying there aren't people out there with problems, but you don't create a new disorder for every new communication/information tool. Do we have telephone addiction disorder? fax machine addiction disorder? television addiction disorder? Hey, I know, lets make a myspace addiction disorder and a friendster addiction disorder and a slash-- er wait.

    sleep dep, maritial difficulties and the like are signs of other disorders, like depression. (or just a general state of distress).

    The 'article' linked by the submitter is fluff, there is nothing empirical in it. It is also missing nearly 9 years of critiques of IAD. Why did this submission happen?

  • by 1310nm (687270) on Friday September 22 2006, @07:31PM (#16164157)
    I learned it from watching you! :(