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The Power of Accidental Discoveries
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Zonk
on Sat Jun 17, 2006 02:31 AM
from the eureka dept.
from the eureka dept.
schmiddy writes "An article from Wired mentions the surprising number of discoveries that have been made entirely by accident. In an older article, The Discovery Channel's site points out a different subset of inventions that happened by accident. A much older article from PBS goes into more depth on the subject of accidental discoveries, and gives a great quote from physicist Joseph Henry: 'The seeds of great discoveries are constantly floating around us, but they only take root in minds well prepared to receive them.'"
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Recipes (Score:5, Funny)
mmm.. peanut butter & bananas.
Like chocolate chip cookies... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Recipes (Score:2)
I did something like this not so long ago. We had mushrooms (the regular kind - not the halluce
Re:Recipes (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Recipes (Score:2)
Anyway, yes it was bread/toppings/cheese, but it was also cobbled together from stuff that I didn't know would mix well. That was the point. And I suck at all things cooking related, so figuring out how to use up lefto
Or Reeses? (Score:4, Funny)
Scene : Death Star Troops' day room as they are approaching Yavin.
TIE Fighter pilot-1 : Mmmmm... Chocolate.
TIE Fighter pilot-2 : Mmmmm... Peanut butter
Pilot-1 bumps into Pilot-2
Pilot-2 : Hey! You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!
Pilot-1 : You got your peanut butter on my chocolate!
Both taste the new combo. "It's delicious!"
Pilot-1 : You know who would like this? Governor Tarkin.
Pilot-2 : Yeah. He likes chocolate, and he likes peanut butter.
Pilot-1 : Let's bring him some.
Alarm klaxons go off and all fighter pilots are ordered to their ships.
Pilot-2 : As soon as the battle's over.
And so the galaxy would have to wait...
Re:Recipes (Score:2)
Re:Recipes (Score:2)
Not so surprising. (Score:2)
Re:Not so surprising. (Score:5, Interesting)
for instance.. when the periodic table was first created, it was surmised there were many elements which were to be discovered.. loe and behold they were eventually, but a lot of the later ones had to be lab created. Had the periodic table not been produced we might not have been interested in doing so.
What I don't get is why half the polymers we use dont end up on that list linked in but viagra does, oh wait yes i do ; ).. but i mean several polymers (the names of which i can't recall off the top of my head) were discovered as a biproduct of petrol purification experiments.
Re:Not so surprising. (Score:2)
Re:Not so surprising. (Score:3, Funny)
Inkjet printers (Score:5, Interesting)
Asimov (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Asimov (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Asimov (Score:2, Informative)
Asimov quote (Score:5, Informative)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but 'That's funny...'"
Is that what you where remembering?
Re:Asimov quote (Score:2)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but 'That's funny...'"
Is that what you where remembering?
Of course there is also John Lennon's quote, "
Re: Asimov quote (Score:3, Funny)
That's funny...
Re:Asimov quote (Score:3, Funny)
Is this surprising? (Score:5, Insightful)
Sure, there are lots of non-accidental discoveries as well: You test a thousand samples looking a specific enzyme and discover that one of them has it. You take spectra over the course of months for a bunch of stars likely to have planets, analyze them looking for planets, and you discover that one of them has planets. You try to find a quantitative model to explain a bunch of specific data, and you end up finding one.
But most of the time you discover something really new either by getting lucky and stumbling across it or by looking at the world with an new instrument and figuring out the results. Either way, you can't know what it is you're looking for until you've found it.
Unfortunately, most of the examples cited by the articles aren't really discoveries at all. They're inventions. And some aren't really accidental. (The exception is the Nova site, which provides a thorough and engaging look at people expecting to find one thing and finding something else entirely.)
Velcro wasn't an accidental discovery, even according to the description in the article itself. A man picked up a natural object and observed it, noticed a particularly appealing characteristic, and then spent years struggling to reproduce it in a practical commercial product. That's about as non-accidental as you can get. It's a textbook (well, children's book) version of engineering, with no surprises anywhere in sight.
A fascinating quote (Score:5, Funny)
Re:A fascinating quote (Score:3, Informative)
Isaac Asimov [brainyquote.com]
janting (Score:2, Interesting)
My description would pale in comparison to the original, so I won't try. Suffice to say, read this book, be amazed
Serendipity (Score:3, Informative)
Fundemental discoveries are made by accident. (Score:4, Interesting)
not really an accident... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Fundemental discoveries are made by accident. (Score:5, Informative)
"The interpretation of these results is that there is no displacement of the interference bands.
The experiment was therefore a success. It was interpreted correctly, and an appropriate conclusion was drawn from it. Einstein had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Unless you have a limited capacity for rational thought, and believe that the only scientist of any note was Einstein, so he must be involved in every story you tell.
Interestingly, I have often found that explaining that Einstein was not born in America, and only took American citizenship when he was no longer producing any useful physics often produces a sudden re-evaluation of his scientific importance to a more appropriate level. Why don't you read original research documents instead of making up history in the Hollywood style?
Re: Fundemental discoveries are made by accident. (Score:2)
However, if I'm not mistaken, the result of the experiment set up a problem which Eins
Best quote (Score:5, Funny)
- Bob Ross [wikiquote.org]
Gaunch (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Gaunch (Score:2)
There is a pattern to accidental discoveries! (Score:5, Insightful)
Alexander Fleming got his petri dishes accidentally ruined by mould. Fleming realised that the mould's antibacterial property could be useful and eventually another scientist succeeded in producing penicillin.
What would your average scientist have done in the same circumstances? Cursed his/her luck and thrown away the dish, most likely...
Actually, that's the nature of "discovery". (Score:4, Insightful)
Just goes to show the benefits of blue sky thinkin (Score:2)
Pasteur had a great quote: (Score:5, Insightful)
Both homogenation and pennicillin were discovered when something expected _didn't_ happen. If they were sloppy, they'd never be able to figure out 'what just happened?'.
Flotation - For the separation of mixtures (Score:4, Interesting)
[i]is a method for the separation of mixtures. Flotation is a separation technique used widely in the minerals industry, for paper, de-inking, and water treatment amongst others. It can also be used in the food and coal industries. The technique relies upon differences in the surface properties of different particles to separate them. The particles that are to be floated are rendered hydrophobic by the addition of the appropriate chemicals. Air is then bubbled through the mixture and the desired particles become attached to the small air bubbles and move to the surface where they accumulate as a froth and are collected, or if the non-desired particles float to the surface they are collected and discarded. The flotation process was developed on a commercial scale early in the 20th century at Broken Hill in Australia and is widely used for processing of sulphide minerals (copper, lead, zinc, nickel, cobalt etc...).[/i]
The anecdotal story I heard was the chief metalurgists wife was washing his work clothes and commented on the shiny qualities of the bubbles.
no.9 (Score:2)
Indirectly ... (Score:2)
How can I "prepare my mind" (Joseph Henry quote)? (Score:4, Interesting)
In an alternate train of thought, it's too bad Charles Robert Richet, the French physiologist mentioned in the article [pbs.org], couldn't have experimented on politicians instead of dogs.... Maybe a precident could have been set that
Perspectives (Score:4, Funny)
Creationist: "The power of the Dark Side."
You can't make brandy this way. (Score:4, Insightful)
Um...alcohol boils at a *lower* temperature than water does. If you "boil the H2O" out of wine, the alcohol's gone long before the H2O is.
Penicillin (Score:3, Informative)
"A researcher in bacteriology, Fleming didn't throw anything away for at least two weeks after he'd worked on it. Instead, he let it sit on his desk for a while, to see whether there was any change in his thinking or in the projects themselves before he scrapped anything."
His discovery was the result of a deliberate, systematic practice.
Re:Number 10: Potato Chips (Score:5, Interesting)
The accidental discovery of the potato chip was important only in that ultimately, when people searched for a way to improve the thin and lackluster potato chip of the masses, the miracle of Pringles was born. I don't know how people could just eat those greasy things that come in a bag for several decades.
One item of trivia that might amuse fans of science fiction is that the machine responsible for Pringles was invented by Gene Wolfe, author of the masterpiece tetralogy The Book of the New Sun [amazon.com] and formerly a professional engineer.
Re:Number 10: Potato Chips (Score:2)
Re:Number 10: Potato Chips (Score:5, Funny)
Re:LSD (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Words of discovery (Score:2)
They say that in the Department of Redundancy Department.
Re:X-Rays (Score:4, Informative)
While a lot of people like to feel clever by deducing that the inventor of the x-ray died from cancer because overexposing himself to it, it just isn't true.
Actually... (Score:3, Interesting)
Edison was a shrewd businessman and marketer, as well. He still has a lot of people f