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New Personal Mono-Wing

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Tue Jun 06, 2006 05:22 PM
from the gi-joe-fueling-future-defense-research dept.
geekRECON writes to tell us that a new lightweight mono-wing is being tested by special forces as an aid to parachute deployment. From the article: "Fitted with oxygen supply, stabilization and navigation aides, troops wearing the wings will jump from a high-altitude transport aircraft which can stay far away from enemy territory - or on secret peacetime missions could avoid detection or suspicion by staying close to commercial airliner flight paths."
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  • by demonbug (309515) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:26PM (#15483178) Journal
    To get deep inside enemy territory.

    Hyuck hyuck hyuck.

    Seriously, looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
  • by TWX (665546) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:27PM (#15483188)
    Not to troll here, but how would a military mission be in peace? Isn't the purpose of our military to engage in wartime activities, like defending our territories and offensively going after the enemy? Wouldn't peacetime air traffic be suspended in a true war zone?
    • Other countries and organisations like the UN engage in military actions in foreign countries to help protect the populations from civil war, for example by providing a 'show of strength' to deter trouble.
      • by Qzukk (229616) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:33PM (#15483236)
        help protect the populations from civil war

        Truly, war is peace.
        • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2006, @06:22PM (#15483562)
          "To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
          President George Washington
          first annual address to Congress, January 8, 1790

          In pace, ut sapiens, aptarit idonea bello.
          "In peace, as a wise man, he should make suitable preparation for war."
          Horace

          Qui desiderat pacem, preparet bellum.
          "Who desires peace should prepare for war."
          Vegetius De Rei Militari III

          Funny how these quotes rarely are posted or modded up on slashdot, yet Orwell here has been beaten to a bloody pulp.
    • by raider_red (156642) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:37PM (#15483262) Journal
      "Secret peacetime missions" seems to be a euphamism for insearting intelligence agents into other countries. I'm not sure why we'd need it for this however, since American Airlines seems to be the best way to send in a spy.

    • You're new around here, aren't you?

      One of the jobs of the CIA is basically peacetime war activities. As simple like that. Trying to stop a war. Trying to start a war. It really all depends on the time of day.
    • by Ryan Amos (16972) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @06:15PM (#15483506)
      Nah, it's more how we sneak troops into a country we haven't invaded yet. Like Iran.
  • by Gat0r30y (957941) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:27PM (#15483194) Homepage Journal
    > "or on secret peacetime missions could avoid detection or suspicion by staying close to commercial airliner flight paths" Somehow that seems like it might go awry... I just can't quite put my finger on it though.
  • by spikeham (324079) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:29PM (#15483203)
    ... welcome our new delta-winged overlords.
  • From ACME! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Tackhead (54550) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:29PM (#15483208)
    One look at the image in the article [dailymail.co.uk] immediately reminded me of the beta version.

    Acme! [rr.com] The only Batman outfit worn by bats!

  • Book (Score:3, Informative)

    by jaysones (138378) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:32PM (#15483231)
    There's a great new book out on wing jumpers called Birdmen, Batmen, and Skyflyers [amazon.com].

    For full disclosure, I work for the publishing company, but this is a really fun read.

  • by ktakki (64573) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:42PM (#15483291) Homepage Journal
    Sounds neat, but the guy in that photo looks incredibly stupid with that wing strapped to his back. He looks like he's going to a costume party dressed as an F-4 Phantom.

    Fuck hazard pay, is there "OMG I look like a dork!" pay?

    k.
  • by Flimzy (657419) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:43PM (#15483297)
    These would take dog fights to a whole new level of excitement!
  • by Gregoyle (122532) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:44PM (#15483304)
    I'm intimately familiar with this community, and I can tell you a few reasons why this will never be used.

    This sounds a lot like one of the things that eggheads who never go to the front lines think would be super-cool or a "killer app".

    First and formost, this would add surprisingly little in the way of capabilities to the units that already insert from high altitude aircraft. A HAHO (High Altitude, High Opening) jump has nearly this glide range anyway, and uses tried and true, proven technology. The standard "killer app" of HAHO is the ability to fly the plane in or near commercial lanes in the airspace of another country and glide across the border into the place where we aren't supposed to be. You might be able to guess how often this is actually used outside Tom Clancy novels.

    Second and probably most damning, the major problem with HALO and HAHO insertions is the fact the you can't bring very much gear with you on the jump; extra gear screws up the aerodynamics something fierce. You can jump some gear, but the more you jump the more trouble you'll have. Now take a look at the guy in the picture in TFA. This guy could jump in with a sidearm and a first aid kit, maybe adding a cell phone if he wanted to get froggy.

    Do you know the average weight of the gear carried on insertion by SF teams in the opening days of Afghanistan? Including weapons, ammo, body armor, hundreds of thousands of dollars cash, water, food, and clothing, it often exceeds the operator's body weight until the team has a chance to cache some of their gear. The things that make an SF team useful in a modern warfare environment are heavy and bulky.

    Do you wonder at all why most units insert on helicopters almost exclusively now?

    These wings will be used often in movies and books, and almost never in real life by real soldiers who have to deal with their limitations.
    • by KylePflug (898555) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:55PM (#15483377) Homepage
      Someone didn't read the "up to 200 lbs" portion. In fact, someone didn't read TFA at all. The problem with a HAHO jump is that you are slow-slow-slow coming down, have a pretty good sized rader profile, and are much omre vulnerable to winds -- which can play holy hell with even light aircraft at these altitudes. A rigid-wing glider like this makes alot more sense for high-altitude covert insertions, especially time-critical and covert operations.
    • Now take a look at the guy in the picture in TFA. This guy could jump in with a sidearm and a first aid kit, maybe adding a cell phone if he wanted to get froggy.

      You might want to read the article instead of just looking at the pretty pictures.
      They claim that up to 200lbs of gear can be stowed in the wing itself.
  • by pandrijeczko (588093) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:45PM (#15483316)
    ...is a 50' high elastic band catapult to send the merry little winged trooper on his way!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 06 2006, @05:48PM (#15483339)
    Where is the link to the relevant item on ThinkGeek ?
  • by sl4shd0rk (755837) on Tuesday June 06 2006, @07:25PM (#15483967)
    That's the jump-jet infantry from Tiberian Sun.