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Wildlife Defies Chernobyl Radiation
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CowboyNeal
on Thu Apr 20, 2006 09:52 PM
from the comeback-trails dept.
from the comeback-trails dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The BBC reports that wildlife has reappeared in the Chernobyl region even with high levels of radiation. Populations of animals both common and rare have increased substantially and there are tantalizing reports of bear footprints and confirmed reports of large colonies of wild boars and wolves. These animals are radioactive but otherwise healthy. A large number of animals died initially due to problems like destroyed thyroid glands but their offspring seem to be physically healthy. Experiments have shown the DNA strands have undergone considerable mutation but such mutations have not impacted crucial functions like reproduction. It is remarkable that such a phenomenon has occurred contrary to common assumptions about nuclear waste. The article includes some controversial statements recommending disposal of nuclear waste in tropical forests to keep forest land away from greedy developers and farmers"
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no worries (Score:5, Funny)
We're fine until we have confirmed reports of colonies of large wild boars and wolves
Re:no worries (Score:5, Funny)
Westley: Rodents Of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
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Monty Pythons Meets News Journalist (Score:5, Funny)
I recall a certain knight... a black one... who expressed similar optimism in the face of suffering personal maladies.
Re:Monty Pythons Meets News Journalist (Score:5, Funny)
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But ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:But ... (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:But ... (Score:5, Funny)
Just to be clear, we are talking about the same Japan, right?
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Re:But ... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:But ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Consider that the average human conception has about three dangerous mutations even without Chernobyl. Why aren't we oatmeal? Because a goodly percentage of conceptions never make it past the blastocyst stage due to excessive nasty chromosomal damage, while we lucky survivors had fewer.
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Is there a name for this? (Score:5, Insightful)
He has found ample evidence of DNA mutations, but nothing that affected the animals' physiology or reproductive ability. "Nothing with two heads," he says.
It's as if the positive changes are being selected in favor of the negative changes.
Re:Is there a name for this? (Score:5, Funny)
It's simple really... the creatures that survived were more intelligently designed than those that died.
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Re:Is there a name for this? (Score:5, Funny)
Verily I say unto you, they HAVE been touched by His Noodly Appendage. Ramen.
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Whooosh! (Score:5, Informative)
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DNA can repair itself, Life will survive! (Score:5, Informative)
Source: http://www.yuccamountain.org/price003.htm [yuccamountain.org]
That doesn't sound so good (Score:5, Insightful)
Contrary to Common Assumptions? (Score:5, Funny)
"Experiments have shown the DNA strands have undergone considerable mutation but such mutations have not impacted crucial functions like reproduction. It is remarkable that such a phenomenon has occurred contrary to common assumptions about nuclear waste."
Ummm... the animals are radioactive and their DNA has undergone considerable mutation. What exactly is contrary here to the common assumptions of radiological contamination? Sure matches my own assumptions.
Sure they can reproduce but I wouldn't exactly be jumping with glee over this "recovery". The damage merely has yet to express itself.
Though if any of the local turtles grow to human size and start dressing like ninjas, I'll take back everything I said.
Radioactive Bears? (Score:5, Funny)
Someone get Stephen Colbert on the phone right away! The world must be warned!
Not that surprising (Score:5, Informative)
It reminds me of the large scale experiments done on plant breeding [1] where radioactive material was placed in the centre of a field of crops, and favourable mutants were selected. I love telling this story to anti-GE people, who probably eat plant products produced as a result of these experiments done predominantly in the 1970's. At least with GE only a single well studied change is being made.
[1] http://www.nias.affrc.go.jp/eng/gfs/index.html [affrc.go.jp]
If you want a bit more depth (Score:5, Informative)
long-term effect (Score:5, Insightful)
So, not everyone living in an irradiated area will have their flesh falling off, but for us long-lifed humans, the life would be filled with more misery and an early ending. Maybe cancer at 20. And for normal human socities, "old farts" (those over 30) are really what drive the society.
long-term effect (Score:5, Interesting)
Since these organisms have such short lifespans, there have been ample generations since the nuclear accident for the organisms to go locally extinct or mutate into different species. But, that has not been the case. These local populations have continued to survive without deleterious effects on the population level.
Populations of organisms with longer lifespans may take longer to recover to pre-blast levels (although from the sound of the article and my previous knowledge the opposite has occurred) and may experience a genetic bottleneck effect (which may be countered by mutations), but genomes are resiliant and it is unlikely that the populations would never recover.
Remember that glowing pig story... (Score:5, Funny)
A bunch of thoughts (Score:5, Insightful)
So why are we surprised that any of this is happening?
Re:No suprise (Score:5, Interesting)
I would imagine animals and plantlife are not thriving or living as well as they should be. Radiation levels in outlaying areas have probbaly dropped to levels that allow life to screw faster then it is consumed by disease and cancer.
Heck people that lived in the chemical waste dump of Love Canal could still have kids... but in a toxic situation like that you're gon'a have a flipper baby or two, and life expectancy is going to be fairly bad.
This woman motorcycled through Chernobyl not to recently. In many parts radiation levels were safe enough for her to travel around. As I recall she carried a geiger counter, but didn't wear a radiation suit. She didn't venture around the epicenter of disaster, but she took a lot of rad photos, and saw wild life.
http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/jou
But who knows, perhaps radiation has produced a race of super bears which are immune to nuclear weapons. If so, someone should notify Steven Colbert.
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Re:Disposal of nuclear waste could be trivial (Score:5, Funny)
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