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Putting Star Wars to the MythBusters Test

Posted by Zonk on Tue Jan 31, 2006 03:52 PM
from the jamie-i-am-your-father dept.
DangerTenor writes "The cast of the show MythBusters chat about their pasts with ILM, talk about some Star Wars myths (Can you avoid freezing to death in a blizzard overnight by gutting a dead animal like a tauntaun and getting into its carcass?) and why R2-D2 is the perfect sidekick." Not as cool as our interview, but pretty neat.

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biohack writes "Most fans of the MythBusters would agree that the two hosts of the show, Adam and Jamie, are 'diametrically opposed in every aspect of their lives'. The Christian Science Monitor story about the MythBusters explores the connection between the backgrounds of the hosts (who knew that Jamie had a degree in Russian literature?) and their creative differences on and off camera." From the article: "It took Hyneman a of couple years to feel comfortable talking in front of a camera, let alone to strangers on the street. 'You have to remember that I'm a guy who is happiest in a dark room just thinking,' he says. 'I'm not a sociable person. I don't like to talk.' Savage, on the other hand, is outgoing. They're clearly the Oscar and Felix of myth busting ... 'Jamie is all about total, complete, and utter control. Thinking first and then acting. Adam is about acting first and then thinking.'"
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  • That Tauntaun thing... (Score:5, Informative)

    by cnelzie (451984) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @03:54PM (#14610441) Homepage
    ...wasn't how they survived the entire evening. It was just to keep Luke warm while Han built the shelter... Geeze.

        (Yeah, I am a Star Wars Geek.)
      • Re:That Tauntaun thing... (Score:5, Funny)

        by IAAP (937607) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:09PM (#14610568)
        Afterall there's no chance they'll kill some animal in some cold place and put one of their interns in it over night. That would be pretty cruel taking into account that it's just done "to be sure"...

        You mean would be cruel to the animal. The intern, on the other hand, well, they're interns!

        [ Parent ]
      • Re:That Tauntaun thing... (Score:5, Informative)

        by ArsonSmith (13997) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:32PM (#14610777) Journal
        As someone who grew up hunting and skinned many a deer and elk I can say that the insides will stay rather warm for quite some time. While bow hunting you often have to track an animal the next morning because a bow wont kill it right away. While I think Hoth was suppose to be something like -60 or more I know that an Elk will hold heat for well over 12 hours in 0-10degree weather.

        [ Parent ]
  • The Real Myth (Score:5, Funny)

    by Shadow Wrought (586631) * on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:00PM (#14610490) Homepage Journal
    Does talking backward smarter make you sound? Hmmmmm?
  • Deathstar (Score:5, Funny)

    by damonlab (931917) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:06PM (#14610531)
    Does the Deathstar run Linux?
    • Re:Deathstar (Score:5, Funny)

      by Frequency Domain (601421) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:13PM (#14610595)
      Does the Deathstar run Linux?
      No, but if the rebels had only had an Apple laptop they could have uploaded a virus and bypassed that whole shoot down the cooling vent thing.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Deathstar (Score:5, Funny)

      by goldenorfe (800468) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @05:16PM (#14611190)
      The death star runs Gentoo, which is why they were behind schedule building it.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Deathstar (Score:5, Funny)

      by interstellar_donkey (200782) <pathighgate.hotmail@com> on Tuesday January 31 2006, @05:29PM (#14611319) Homepage Journal
      I always thought it ran VMS.

      I don't have a good reason. It just seems like that's what the Empire would use.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:5, Interesting)

        by LehiNephi (695428) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:52PM (#14610980) Journal
        2000 Turbolasers and 2500 laser cannons isn't that much when you consider the size of the deathstar. A sphere with a diameter of 120km (according to Wikipedia) would have a surface area of over 45,000 sq.km. That leaves more than 10 sq. km. per weapon.

        I guess that's why Darth Vader had to send out the TIE fighters...
        [ Parent ]
  • Water cores (Score:5, Insightful)

    by slavemowgli (585321) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:06PM (#14610538) Homepage

    Could you pilot a submarine through a planet's core?

    "If it were possible to have a water core at the center of a planet, then perhaps, but the pressures would be significant," Imahara explains. "That would have to be some submarine."

    "Would the inside of a planet be water?" Savage asks. "I don't think so."

    Indeed, the pressure *would* be significant, and the water would either be in a solid or supercritical liquid phase - it'd be pretty unlikely that you'd find it possible to drive a submarine through it in either case, though, even if the submarine itself would be constructed to withstand the pressure and temperature at the core.

    Of course, IANAP, though, so YMMV.

      • Water Phase Diagram (Score:5, Informative)

        by everphilski (877346) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:29PM (#14610743) Journal
        Water Phase Diagram [lsbu.ac.uk]

        Note regions VIII-XI. With enough pressure yes, water will solidify. HOWEVER there is a temperature point at which the water will no longer solidify (not shown on this scale although you can see the "liquid dome" is increasing as temperature increases. Eventually if you go far enough to the right there is a point where only vapor exists, regardless of pressure.

        So while GP is correct that pressure will solidify water there is also extreme temperature that will counteract the pressure. One must wonder why water cores don't exist in real life...
        [ Parent ]
      • Re:Water cores (Score:5, Interesting)

        by pclminion (145572) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:54PM (#14610993)
        But I thought that solid water (ice) was less dense then the liquid form. Therefore, if you compress water enough, it cannot turn into a solid.

        There are twelve known physical types of ice [lsbu.ac.uk]. Look at the phase diagram carefully. Even at 10,000 gigapascals there are forms of ice. Most of these types are denser than water. What we typically think of as "water ice" is specifically called Ice-1 (there are two subtypes, cubic and hexagonal). Ice-2 through Ice-10 are all denser than water, with Ice-10 being 2.5 times as dense. That's some heavy ice. Ice-11 is less dense than water, but Ice-12 is again denser.

        Our observations of water here on earth are not really representative of all the forms of H2O in nature. On the contrary, a big part of the reason why life is able to exist on this planet is that we are almost exactly at the triple point of water. By the weak anthropic principle, we only observe those forms of water that are conducive to the existence of life.

        [ Parent ]
  • The only good wars... (Score:5, Funny)

    by truthsearch (249536) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:11PM (#14610584) Homepage Journal
    "Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Contrary to what you've just seen, war is neither glamorous nor fun. There are no winners, only losers. There are no good wars, with the following exceptions: The American Revolution, World War II, and the Star Wars Trilogy. If you'd like to learn more about war, there's lots of books in your local library, many of them with cool, gory pictures." -- Bart Simpson
  • A 50 footer? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Otter (3800) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:12PM (#14610586) Journal
    Could you survive a 50-foot fall into a snow bank like Luke Skywalker did?

    Huh? Jamie Pierre just broke the skiing cliff-drop record [localnews8.com] with a 245-footer in Grand Targhee. I haven't seen the video yet, but supposedly he didn't even land it cleanly. (The New Zealander who previously held the record hit a 225-footer into slush, landing on his back with a backpack full of foam.)

    C'mon, a 50-footer won't even get you into a movie nowadays unless you throw at least a 720...

  • The lightsaber myth... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Vexler (127353) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:16PM (#14610620) Journal
    Can a weapon like a lightsaber actually exist?

    Even the most uninformed fan knows that it's not just the light, but it's plasma being shaped into a cylindrical shape approximately 1 meter in length (according to the Episode III novel) that gives the lightsaber its power. (Yes, and the Force, but let me just talk about the saber for the moment...)

    One of the problem has to do with the state of the plasma, often called the fourth state of matter. It is by no means solid, and yet the fact that the lightsaber has a distinct shape when activated and the fact that two lightsabers can clash in a duel mean that there is a solid-like boundary to the blade that is inviolable. On the contrary, often we see the blade cutting through other objects and body parts with frightening ease. (Just ask Count Dooku.)

    Which brings me to another issue: The power required to confine the plasma in a blade-like configuration (be it magnetic or otherwise) may well exceed the power to generate the blade in the first place. It seems almost redundant for a weapon of this type to be built, as the builder can control and direct the flow of plasma with a device no more than 30 centimeters in length. As someone else said regarding construction of Dyson Spheres, "If you can build it, you don't need it."
    • Re:The lightsaber myth... (Score:5, Funny)

      by XxtraLarGe (551297) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:25PM (#14610706) Journal
      Can a weapon like a lightsaber actually exist?

      Ah, but of course! [howstuffworks.com]

      [ Parent ]
    • Re:The lightsaber myth... (Score:5, Funny)

      by radtea (464814) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:44PM (#14610904)
      the fact that two lightsabers can clash in a duel mean that there is a solid-like boundary to the blade that is inviolable

      Clearly there is some kind of quantum coherence going on in the plasma that effectively makes each lightsaber a single giant fermion. Then the Pauli exclusion principle keeps any two lightsabers from occupying the same space. This is why the only thing (other than Chuck Norris) that a lightsaber can't cut through is another lightsaber.
      [ Parent ]
  • Don't read if you love Star Wars (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Microsift (223381) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:28PM (#14610736)
    I'm going to ruin it for you... In episode IV, the Storm Troopers set their blasters for stun and fill the room up with blaster energy (it was represented as concentric circles), and capture Princess Leia. Why on Earth wasn't this the default setting? Much is made in the movies about the Jedi's ability to block blaster fire with their light sabers, (and in Vader's case his hand). It seems like the obvious tactic against a Jedi is set for stun, knock the Jedi out, set for kill, kill the Jedi. No muss, no fuss. But they never do this...
  • Real myth needs busting (Score:5, Funny)

    by squidfood (149212) on Tuesday January 31 2006, @04:34PM (#14610789)
    Given the angle of attack, exit wound, etc., did Han shoot first?

    (Personally I suspect some post-Imperial propagandist doctored the data).