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Introverts Have More Brain Activity?

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Mon Nov 28, 2005 09:28 PM
from the looking-only-as-far-as-the-nearest-computer-lab dept.
* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us Yahoo News is reporting that introverted individuals tend to have more brain activity in general, specifically in the frontal lobe. From the article: "The attitude that there's something wrong with introverted people is widely shared in society, where fast talk and snap decisions are often valued over listening, deliberation and careful planning. Extroverts seem to rule the world or, at least, the USA, which hasn't elected an introverted president for three decades, since Jimmy Carter."
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:30PM (#14134565)
    I'm recycling a comment from another AC in another Scuttlemonkey/**Beatles-Beatles post. This guy's getting worse than Roland Picklepail:

    Am I the only person who has noticed the numerous stories that get posted by *--Beatles-Beatles? Am I also the only person who has noticed that the link used in is name is a constantly changing URL (depending on the story) with pointers to various scammy sites? Is it not obvious what he's doing? He's using the awesome PageRank of slashdot do promote his sites based on searches that have the word Beatles in them.

    It's a small price to pay for free advertising. Find a story, summarize it in 5 minutes, post to slashdot, and get a pagerank boost that advertisers would pay hundreds (or maybe thousands) for. (Text links on high-ranking sites is big business - just ask oreilly).

    Slashdot should at least put a ref=nofollow in the links to submitters (or better yet, only link the submitter's name to his/her user page).


    In closing, a quick bit of WHOIS shows that all the sites linked by **B-B are registered to Carl Fogle. Carl, cut this crap out.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:48PM (#14134673)
      It's a small price to pay for free advertising. Find a story, summarize it in 5 minutes, post to slashdot, and get a pagerank boost that advertisers would pay hundreds (or maybe thousands) for.

      From the point of view of Slashdot, giving a pagerank boost is a small price to pay to get submissions that got at least 5 min of work into them.
  • Fast talker (Score:5, Informative)

    by vik (17857) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:30PM (#14134566) Homepage Journal
    "...fast talk and snap decisions are often valued over listening, deliberation and careful planning..."

    Maybe on your side of the pond, mate.

    Vik :v)
  • by Mirkon (618432) <mirkon@@@gmail...com> on Monday November 28 2005, @09:32PM (#14134570) Homepage
    Extroverts try to convince everyone how smart they are. Introverts assume everyone already knows it.
    • by HardCase (14757) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:46PM (#14134661)
      And neither realizes that they're about as smart as the next guy.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:51PM (#14134692)
      Being an introvert myself it's not surprising that I think that introverts are smarter in intellectual pursuits simply because they are constantly thinking instead of speaking. However, whether this higher intellect has much benefit for the world is questionable, as most intraverts keep it all to themselves. It is also likely that most intraverts easily form incorrect opinions and hold onto them because they don't test them in debate with other people as extraverts do. But what do I know, I've probably been thinking about this too much already.
  • Great subject.... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DigiShaman (671371) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:32PM (#14134574) Homepage
    ...presented badly. Why of WHY did you have politicizing this subject?
  • Reminds Me... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Llywelyn (531070) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:33PM (#14134586) Homepage

    A while back I read an article in The Atlantic titled "Caring for Your Introvert [learningplaceonline.com]" by Jonathan Rauch. Absolutely great piece.

    • Irony (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:44PM (#14134646)
      I love this bit from your link:
      Are introverts arrogant? Hardly. I suppose this common misconception has to do with our being more intelligent, more reflective, more independent, more level-headed, more refined, and more sensitive than extroverts.
    • by elucido (870205) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:57PM (#14134723)
      The main reason people decide on the introvert approach is because people don't actually care. If people actually cared then introverts would have a reason to be more outgoing. Think of it that way.

      One key difference among introverts, introverts know you don't really care and stay in their own world. An Extroverts world and entire reality only exists if people in that reality allow for it.

      View it like this, if you are an introvert because you don't want an overly dramatic, painful, insane life, and want actual control over your life, thats just the logical way to have control.

      If you are an extrovert, you care what other people think of you, you care about others more than others care about you, and I'm not saying its wrong to care about others, but extroverts simply get attached to everyone, or no one, while introverts are very selective with whom they attach to and connect with.

      It's just different strategies, if a person can put up with the pain of being an extrovert, then theres nothing wrong with it, but for others being an extrovert is impossible or difficult unless its in a very artificial way. The artificial way of being an extrovert is to pretend to care, pretend to listen to people, pretend to trust people, and pretend to be social. Example, being social at work or at school because you are supposed to, not because you actually like to or need to, this is how an introvert views.

      An extrovert HAS to be social or they go insane with bordem. An extrovert HAS to feel loved or they get depressed. An extrovert MUST feel accepted, MUST feel normal, and so on and so forth.

      introverts want to simply stay in their own world and enjoy their time here, and are much more time conscious in that they know its a complete waste of time to play social mind games with people.

  • by dotslashdot (694478) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:34PM (#14134591)
    What about perverts?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:34PM (#14134594)
    Introverted as I am I won't be able to express this but I do have FAR more brain activity than others. I don't think it has to do with my introverted but it's more of a symptom.

    For example; today I had an awful day. I'll think about it until tomorrow morning. My extroverted friends will shrug it off as "bad day, tomorrow is another". If in fact I do "think" more, I'll spend less time socializing as it'll cut into my thinking time.

    Yesterday at a church event I attempted to be even more extroverted than normal. I was insulted in the course of the evening, a minor misunderstanding of my position, and of course it distracted me the rest of the evening as I thought about how to restate and rectify my position.

    So yes, we think more but why would the thinking want to associate with the brain-dead? We don't. We fall back into our shells and think about why the world is as it is.
    • This is the kind of thing I was going to post. I am an introvert (degree depends on situation, ranging from slight extrovert to medium/strong introvert). I think introverts have more brain activity because they think about things more. An extrovert says something in a conversation. They might think about it a little first, but they say it.

      An introvert says it, but only after thinking it over, if it is the best thing to say, the timing, thinking about what others say a bunch to try to come up with good things to say, etc. An introvert can "over analyze" things like that.

      Other things happen too. When I'm going to meet someone, I'll often think up entire conversations on the way. It isn't purposeful, but I think something along the lines of "I could say X", then that leads to "then they would say Y", and it continues and before you know it I've had a little conversation in my head.

      I think about all sorts of stuff. I can be walking down the street and I'll start thinking about something completely irrelevant. I'm not talking about "I remember that one birthday", I'm talking about "how you could build X" which leads to how to solve problem Y, how X would be useful in situation Z, etc.

      That is sort of the whole introvert/extrovert thing. Introverts do all this stuff inside. Extroverts might do these things as conversations with other people, or they might fill that "need" in some other way with normal conversation and such.

      That's how I see it. I used to be more of an introvert, and I've never been an extrovert so I can't say I've had that point of view (outside of the odd situation).

  • Perhaps (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 28 2005, @09:34PM (#14134595)
    A book, "The Introvert Advantage", delves with great detail into the differences between introverts and extroverts.

    More information here: http://www.theintrovertadvantage.com/ [theintrove...antage.com]

    Here's a quick bit from the site:
    Are You One?
    We all use both our introverted and extroverted skills, but we are hard wired to be more one than the other. Look at the lists below and determine which one feels more like YOU!

    Not every aspect will fit exactly for you because we are all unique. If you don't feel like you fit one side more than the other, even by 51% to 49%, then ask yourself this question: If there is an emergency do you tend to stand still and feel somewhat shutdown or in slow motion? If you have a standstill reaction to stress more often, then you are probably an introvert. In a crisis do you tend to move your body immediately and feel like taking action, maybe without pausing to think? Then you are probably an extrovert if you react with movement. Under stress we can experience our innate temperament. Look over the two lists and think about how you ARE, not as you'd like to be. If your still uncertain, as a last ditch effort, ask someone you trust and who is honest to read these and suggest which one sounds more like you.

    Introverts:
    • Enjoy time alone
    • Consider only deep relationships as friends
    • Feel drained after outside activities, even if they were fun
    • Good listener
    • Appear calm and self-contained
    • Think then speak or act


    Extroverts:
    • Like to be in the thick of things
    • Relish variety
    • Know lots of people, considers lots of people friends
    • Enjoy chit-chatting, even to strangers
    • Feel stoked after activity
    • Speak or act then think OR think while speaking


    I recommend this book if you think you are or know somebody that you think is indeed an introvert, as this book says alot about what an introvert is and what the article briefly describes.
    • Re:Perhaps (Score:5, Insightful)

      by LoverOfJoy (820058) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:58PM (#14134729) Homepage
      You brought out the important determining factors. The thing that people often misunderstand is that people who are "good" at "being social" are not necessarily extroverts. Often those people who are the life of the party really prefer alone time and are incredibly drained after the party.

      On the other hand, many "nerds" who really struggle at small talk still crave opportunities to meet lots of people and on those rare occasions when they are on top of their game they feel energized and love it.

      Being a nerd (or a geek for that matter) does not necessarily mean being an introvert.

  • by Mad_Rain (674268) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:36PM (#14134604) Journal
    For introverts, there was also lot of activity in the area of the brain that relates to the visual processing and the desire of red staplers... but that's probably just a coincidence. ;)
  • Well, duh... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Burning1 (204959) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:36PM (#14134607) Homepage
    Introverted people tend to seriously overanalize situations and have difficulty relaxing in social enviornments. The result is conversation that feels forced, somthing that most people don't find attractive.

    Ever wondered why meeting people is easier when tipsy? It makes your brain shut up.
  • by ZachPruckowski (918562) <zachary.pruckowski@gmail.com> on Monday November 28 2005, @09:38PM (#14134615)
    So basically this is a colony of introverts, and we get a story about how great introverts are. What does that do for us in terms of teaching us? It feels like nerds needed to give each other a pat on the back.

    I feel the karma burning, but hey, I got a 4 today, so I can afford a -1.
  • by David Hume (200499) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:38PM (#14134619) Homepage
    Introverted children enjoy the internal world of thoughts, feelings and fantasies, and there's a physiological reason for this. Researchers using brain scans have found introverts have more brain activity in general, and specifically in the frontal lobes.
    Are they introverted because they have more brain activity? Or do they have more brain activity because they are introverted? Or are they introverted and have more brain activity because of another cause?

    There is frequently an assumption that the physical (brain chemistry, electrical activity) causes the behavior (introspection), as opposed to the other way around, or some other, independent cause.
     
  • by Scarletdown (886459) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:39PM (#14134623)
    I believe it was the late great philosopher Douglas Adams who stated, "If people stop talking, their brains start working."
  • by centipetalforce (793178) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:42PM (#14134637)
    Attaching a label to yourself is a great way to start a self fulfilling prophecy, unless you are simply self analyzing. The old "I'm an introvert so I don't get friends" philosophy is widespread and teribly limiting. You CAN be both, and I try to stretch both sides of me.
    I try to beleive I'm a little more diverse than one word, the same way I don't describe myself as a Jew, or white, or red head, or whatever. If you are in a situation where you have to describe yourself as one word, you may be around the wrong people.
  • by Anoraknid the Sartor (9334) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:44PM (#14134647) Homepage
    Ok, so you are saying that recent American Presidents have not had much frontal lobe activity...

    You know, we'd guessed....
  • by Dachannien (617929) on Monday November 28 2005, @10:01PM (#14134747)
    Nothing exemplifies the supposed power of the extrovert more than The Apprentice. All those disgusting Type-A personalities backstabbing each other and ripping the crap out of each other for the tiniest mistakes to make themselves look good, and not only are we supposed to be amused by it, but we're also supposed to believe that that's really how you get real work done. It undoes what few remnants of "cooperation" are left from our positive Sesame Street educations and convinces us that being rude and loud at other people's expense is the only way to succeed.

    • by flyingsquid (813711) on Monday November 28 2005, @09:50PM (#14134684)
      Another case of the assumption that the USA = The World.

      What is this "World" that you speak of? Is "World" one of the Middle States? Like between Kansas and Ohio? I never could remember those.