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Remote Control for Humans? 237
FatMacDaddy writes "The SFGate is reporting on a remote control for manipulating humans through electrical stimulation of the inner ear nerves.The author of this article describes his experience with having a "remote control for humans" device used on him. The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment, but it might also be used as a weapon to disable people. An interesting read with perhaps some disturbing implications. Better get a second layer on those tinfoil hats!"
Sure... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Sure... (Score:2, Interesting)
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Yeah, they could do it to the soldiers they already have. But, they're having a hard time meeting recruitment goals already - if they did something like that, volunteer rates would drop even lower. They'd have to reinstate the draft.
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Grrrr. Those darn Elves!
Re:Sure... (Score:2)
anyone got some credible proof of these claims?
a peer reviewed journal article refference would be nice.
Re:Sure... (Score:3, Informative)
Hmmm. Given the crowd here, perhaps that IS news for Slashdot.
Re:Sure... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sure... (Score:2)
Hey, after a heavy night on the sauce, rather than calling for a cab/taxi, stick on one of these headsets, type in your address, and have it walk you home! Perhaps make it stop off for a kebab on the way!
Ain't technology grand!
Getting home from the bar (Score:2)
About Those Foil Hats (Score:2)
As for getting people to wear the "required headware", outfit it so that it will just shove a big mac or a krispy kreme in their mouth at the push of a button. That'll ge
It's official, humans are property. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Sure... (Score:3)
That would more than convince many people to wear one.
Re:Sure... (Score:3, Funny)
women have had this for years. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2)
that link is work-safe.
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2, Funny)
tell that to my credit card !
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2)
Re:women have had this for years. (Score:2, Funny)
Old news (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Old news (Score:2)
confirmed dupe (Score:5, Informative)
Re:confirmed dupe (Score:2)
It just goes to show you how stringent the entrance requirements must be to get onto the
404...conspiracy theories begin! (Score:5, Funny)
Stewie: Good day, shopkeep.
Chris: Good day shopkeep, I require a hand-operated buzzsaw capable of cutting through a human sternum.
Shopkeep: What?
Chris: It's for a school project, I'm some sort of student sent here for... oh blast what the devil do they study? uh... Latin class.
Shopkeep: Uhh, sorry kid, I can't sell power tools to minors.
Chris: Now look here you gore-bellied codpiece. Allow me to purchase the provisions I demand or I'll form your blue collar into a red one and-
Who the deuce are you? No I don't have any spare change. Where the hell would I keep it? In my diaper? Get out of here you hobo. Oh bloody hell, is this thing still on?
Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! (Score:2)
Re:404...conspiracy theories begin! (Score:3, Informative)
Even if you're didn't see that episode, it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Stewie was using a mind control device on Chris.
Duuuuuh!!!!!!!
Disturbing implications indeed... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Disturbing implications indeed... (Score:2)
Re:Disturbing implications indeed... (Score:2)
"Dance, mailman. Dance!" -- Cheers
Nothing New (Score:5, Funny)
Wetware hacking?? (Score:3, Informative)
my day (Score:5, Funny)
ObligFuturama (Score:3, Funny)
Leela: "Didn't you have remote controls in the 20th century?"
Fry: "Well sure, but not for humans! Only for tv and radio...and stereos...and DVD Players. And for air conditioning, blinds, and toy cars, and Robosapiens, and banana label machines, and Nintendo. But not for humans! No sirree."
This reminds me of... (Score:3, Funny)
From the Spock's Brain department... (Score:2)
But "Spock's Brain" is definitely some stinky cheese. Aside from Star Trek V, and the next gen episode where everyone devolves into creatures which, mostly they didn't actually evolve from (so bad I have never looked back to learn the name of the episode).
Actually, I try to predict the byline on Slashdot stories and I think this is definitely from the
And yet again (Score:2)
I like star trek for their original plots.
My word... (Score:4, Funny)
Now that's entertainment!
question (Score:4, Funny)
Head movements (Score:5, Funny)
Or just don't put on the headgear that controls you.
Either way, I'm not going to work at any job that requires me to wear this remote control, unless it's wireless. Wearing headgear all day with a wire attached would probably give me a sore neck by causing restricted head movements.
Re:Head movements (Score:2)
I wonder if you could shorten it out with a strand of tinfoil stretching from electrode to electrode.
Gives a whole new meaning to the term tinfoil hat....
Obligatory... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Obligatory... (Score:3, Insightful)
That would have been handy... (Score:3, Funny)
This could be taken to an extreme... (Score:2, Funny)
VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE (Score:4, Funny)
Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.
Ignore the fact that I'm drunk right now, but I will *NEVER* put one of these things on my head. I'll stick with "subliminal messages thru sneaky frames included in films.
Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE (Score:2, Funny)
Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE (Score:3, Funny)
Forget the second tinfoil layer, people. Be content in the fact that until you willingly strap a device to your head, you're safe.
My feelings exactly, besides, these aren't the droids I was looking for anyways...
Re:VAPOR-FUQIN-WARE (Score:2)
there's old analog tech that does it better... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:there's old analog tech that does it better... (Score:3, Interesting)
If such a device were available in a high-powered, long-range model (defined as a few hundred metres) then crowd control might be possible whether the crowd consented to be controlled or not -- just make them all wobble off in the desired direction.
Warfare becomes a matter of "He with the strongest broadcast, and/or the best
Related Article (Score:3, Informative)
Wha--?! (Score:2, Funny)
You mean that's NOT Corrosion of Conformity in my head?!
weaponization unlikely (Score:5, Insightful)
As a student at one of the big universities where balance control and vestibular control is studied -- let me be the first to say that all of this is HIGHLY alpha. At best, it's proof-of-concept only. I wouldn't be worried about being "remote controlled" -- but hey, add this to a VR sim and things might get better than the crappy sim software/hardware that we've had since the mid90's -- or do some of the stuff i mentioned above.
Re:weaponization unlikely (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not sure about you, but I feel distinctly uncomfortable with both these scenarios.
Re:weaponization unlikely (Score:3, Funny)
Re:weaponization unlikely (Score:2)
Interrogation purposes (Score:2)
Re:Interrogation purposes (Score:2)
Re:weaponization unlikely (Score:2)
Completely likely given enough time (Score:2)
Duh! Everyone knows in the 23rd century The Law regulators are installed at birth.
Re:weaponization unlikely (Score:2)
What do you think those Ipod headphones are really for?
Re:weaponization very likely (Score:2)
But then (Score:2)
I would expect that people who had it for a period of time would be more or less immune to these weapons, being in the state you describe so constantly that their brain eventually adjusts (though the guy I knew with this ailment wore heavy boots to provide other sources of balance feedback)...
Who knows, maybe there will be a new job market for those with Menier's Disease...
Already exists (Score:2)
Women have used a similar technique to control men for thousands of years, but they don't focus on the ears.
Remote Control? (Score:3, Insightful)
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My question... (Score:2)
Apple uses this technology already... (Score:2)
Was at Siggraph (Score:2)
I saw this at Siggraph this year (Score:4, Informative)
in defense of the foil (Score:5, Funny)
Please take the time to consider these and other reasons to treat alluminum foil as a reasonable, effective form of alternative preventitive medicine for everyone's mental well-being.
-apt
"medieval students were no less manic-depressive, riot-prone, or financially indignant than their modern counterparts"
Not a second layer (Score:4, Funny)
Singularity stuff. (Score:2)
See the Empire Ship [orionsarm.com] entry on Orion's Arm for a snippet that refers to the idea.
That kind of remote control would really suck.
Tinfoil hats are mind-control antennas! (Score:4, Funny)
I think I have one of these.. (Score:4, Interesting)
I did get an interesting effect from it: due to the high resistance of my skin I have to turn the device WAY up to get any response and during the strongest pulses, I saw flashes of light that were not present outside of my optic nerve(it wasn't arcing in other words).
Anyway, as I read the article, it's less about remote control humans and more about being able to affect what they are feeling which is scary but with this version they'd have to sneak up on you and covertly put these things on your skull...with good electrode contact..and probably lube to prevent burning. If it does use the same technology as what I have then you need to know that there are 3 different ways(at least) that we sense motion and the inner ear is only one. The other two are visual and the type of feeling you get in your joints when you accelerate on, say, a bus; this is aka proprioceptive I think. If they didn't have something that would give you a slightly harder time to keep your balance(we used the Tempurpedic(tm) memory foam because it shifts acording to the weight and temperature. Without this, you don't feel any shift in your joints so if your visual environment didn't move either, you'd mostly discard the signal. It's because of the "rule" of 'virtual reality': you have to fool 2 of the 3 ways we sense motion for the brain to accept it as real. And despite all this, with a slight amount of concentration, you can see through the illusion. Maybe what they have is different..I'll have to research to find out now.
movie (Score:3, Informative)
Enjoy.
Homebuilt Galvanic Vestibular Stimulation Devices (Score:2, Interesting)
Bang! (Score:2)
The developers hope to use this with video games and other entertainment
Did anybody ever play ''Syndacate wars''?
Spock's Brain (Score:3, Funny)
Who's laughing now? [Tick... tick... tick...]
Why "disturbing implications"? (Score:2)
is all it really is)? You can do that now with various forms of gas
or if you really want to control a crowd , you can use bullets. If
I had the choice between some inner ear stimulation and a bullet in
my chest or breathing in some form of nerve gas I know which I'd
choose!
Attach something to your head? (Score:2)
But once you get arrested for something you've never heard of (probably whistling a copyrighted tune), the cops will put this thing on your head and place you in a cell.
See, knowing that torture is now legal in the USA, they're well aware that you'd *seriously* try to get away - and using this thing, you'll docily do exactly as you're told.
Have fun living in the USA, home of the free. I won't.
Please no tarantulas (Score:3, Funny)
Re:this one's quite a scare (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Sounds like the real life version of (Score:2)
Don't you mean "The People" by Zena Henderson ?
Does anybody read anymore ?
Re:Sounds like the real life version of (Score:2)
Zenna Henderson page: http://www.adherents.com/lit/bk_Zenna.html [adherents.com]
Re:"Nothing for you to see here. Please move along (Score:2)
Re:Headline phrasing? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sadly, it's just another tool for turning excess humans into golems. Sigh.
Re:Headline phrasing? (Score:2)
Sadly, it's just another tool for turning excess humans into golems. Sigh."
Only on Slashdot would people think an easier to program VCR is cooler than turning humans into golems.
Re:Can I use it to... (Score:2)
Re:Can I use it to... (Score:2)
Other than that, i think it's a bad idea even to consider remote control of humans. But ofcourse some countries are very interested in it, like china and russia the usa. My own country is luckily so small that here an attempt to control anyone will probably end up someone else controlling you and thats about it.
Re:FP! (Score:2)
Re:Implanted Feraday cage (Score:2)