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Details On Inflatable Space Modules
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on Thu Sep 30, 2004 04:00 PM
from the jetson-world dept.
from the jetson-world dept.
Decibel writes "Although it's been mentioned on Slashdot twice now, this article contains more details about Robert T. Bigelow's plan to orbit massive inflatable space habitats, with the first test modules to be launched next year. It also details the $50 million "America's Space Prize", with the objective to "spur development of a low-cost commercial manned orbital vehicle capable of launching 5-7 astronauts at a time to Bigelow inflatable modules by the end of the decade.""
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Xanadu (Score:5, Interesting)
Something to think about, anyway.
Re:Xanadu (Score:5, Informative)
BTW... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Xanadu (Score:5, Informative)
You can start to get respect for these inflatable structures when you realise that normal atmospheric pressure is just about 10 *tonnes* per square meter.
These structures seem to be made from a woven kevlar material.
They also have to be able to survive impact from debris in LEO and micrometeors without simply popping.
Damn... (Score:4, Funny)
I'd love to see the "Trojan Condom" logo on that thing. Talk about great product placement.
Fools! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Fools! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Fools! (Score:4, Funny)
Oh No, they already got it into Seattle!! We're all doomed!! [spaceneedle.com]
No terrorists needed (Score:4, Funny)
The biggest challenge (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The biggest challenge (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The biggest challenge (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The biggest challenge (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, what are you going to be pushing out of those thrusters? The really basic problem with space travel is that we like to think of it like terrestrial travel: we want to be able to make big changes in velocity over short periods of time. The problem is that in space, there's not a lot of stuff to grab onto and throw around. About the only thing you've got lots of is light, but photons aren't very massive, so solar sails take a long time to effect a large delta-vee.
So, there's not a lot of stuff lying around. So, bring some with you! Except, for each ton of stuff you bring up the gravity well, you have to throw away several tons in the process (check out the relative size of the space shuttle and the liquid fuel tank and solid rocket boosters it uses to get up into orbit). Those extra tons of propellant translate directly into dollars, and that's what makes it expensive to get up there and then come back.
This is why people are constantly looking for a way to get stuff up into LEO without burning up lots and lots of propellant. Space elevators, balloons, high-altitude airplane launches...
Physical Concerns? (Score:4, Insightful)
I only know enough about this to know that I don't know enough about it.
-Waldo Jaquith
Re:Physical Concerns? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Physical Concerns? (Score:4, Informative)
These inflatable habitats would simply leak air. There wouldn't be any Hollywood gratifying explosions.
These are not fragile (Score:5, Informative)
This is not the case. They are made out of multiple layers of kevlar (the same stuff that bulletproof vests are made of). In tests with the NASA-designed transhab inflatable module they have proven to be much more resistant to space debris than aluminium hulls.
Also even if a particulary large piece of space debris should punch a hole in one of these modules, they are so big that there would be plenty of time to evacuate them before the pressure drops too much. A long-time station will probably also have a repair kit on board.
Third, the problem of space debris is particulary severe in low earth orbit. But in a higher earth orbit there is much less space debris, and the stuff that is there moves with much lower relative velocities. So from a space debris point of view low earth orbit is the absolute worst case. A station at an Earth/Moon lagrange point or in deep space would need little or no space debris protection.
Re:These are not fragile (Score:4, Informative)
http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/rocket_sci
http://www.solarsystem.org.uk/datatext.html
Baloonish (Score:5, Funny)
Not just for space stations (Score:5, Interesting)
Imagine launching to Mars. Even if you launch in a tuna can ala Zubrin, it's still pretty confined. If you launch in an un -nflated balloon, accelerate and get pointed at Mars, you can inflate and have twice or three times the living space. As long are you're willing to be confined for a few hours at first, the place could be quite roomy and more people could be sent per trip as long as provisions are increased.
Just a thought.
Nuclear Rockets! (Score:5, Informative)
I know "nuclear" is still a dirty word, but the gas core reactor design is a completely different approach than a big pile of plutonium. Very promising in terms of power, safety and cost.
It's a long article, 14 parts, but well worth reading. Skip the first 5 or 6 sections if you just want to know how the thing works.
Re:Space Junk (Score:5, Interesting)
The walls will be thick enough to provide the same level of orbital debris protection as existing space station modules. Remember, the Atlas booster had aluminum ballon fuel tanks -- it would actually collapse if the tanks were empty. When other engineers were suggesting it would never fly, they presurized it and gave them a sledgehammer to try to break the booster.
It rebounded and almost hurt the engineer swinging the hammer.
The instant-fill holes are harder than you'd think. Instant-fill tire stuff is designed to work in an atmosphere that you aren't breathing.
Re:Safe Space? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's Kevlar fiber, generally, along with a variety of other materials, all of which have been tested in space or are currently on the space station. Just because a cheap injection-molded plastic toy breaks easily doesn't mean that all non-metallic materials are easily broken.
They've already worked the water supply angle out there. It depends on the project. The Transhab had the water supply going down the center, so you could stay in the shadow of it during radiation events.
Leakproofing is one of the problems they solve to make it all work. Just because a cheap rubber balloon can't hold pressure for years on end doesn't mean that all non-metallic materials have leaks.
Re:Micrometeoroids Much? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The next logical step (Score:4, Informative)
-jcr