A Running Shoe For Agent 86? 356
manganese4 writes "The New York Times (free reg. req.) is reporting on a new shoe from Adidas that contains a ~10KHz chip capable of changing the shoe's characteristics to meet the runner's need. From the article:
'Adidas executives say the shoe is no gadget-dependent gimmick... Each second, a sensor in the heel can take up to 20,000 readings and the embedded electronic brain can make 10,000 calculations, directing a tiny electric motor to change the shoe. The goal is to make the shoe adjust to changing conditions and the runner's particular style while in use. The shoes will have push-button controls, light-emitting diodes to display settings and an instruction manual on a CD-ROM that will advise wearers on, among other things, how to change the battery after every 100 hours of use.' I wonder if the CPU can be overclocked?"
Yeah (Score:3, Funny)
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Not to mention boot it ;-)
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You know, ther guy with the phone in his shoe?
Imagine... (Score:5, Funny)
Crashed (Score:5, Funny)
Wait up guys! My shoes have crashed...
Re:Crashed (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Crashed (Score:3)
Your shopping bag could set off internal alarms when it starts to rip before that bottle of BBQ sauce explodes all over your kitchen floor....
The possibilities are infinite, limited only by the stupidity of the idea in the first place.
Re:Imagine... (Score:4, Funny)
What, no Bluetooth connection to the wristwatch? (Score:4, Funny)
Just wait for convergence to take hold (Score:5, Funny)
Re:What, no Bluetooth connection to the wristwatch (Score:3, Funny)
Actually, you can tune it, but it involves a complex pattern of hops, skips, and jumps.
Durability over Lifetime? (Score:5, Interesting)
Does anyone else thing it's a bad idea to throw these sorts of components into something that's going to take a few hundred thousand 100kg (or more depending on speed/weight/height) impacts?
It's just another imbedded system (Score:5, Insightful)
There are far more stressful environments for computers in military and industrial settings.
Re:It's just another imbedded system (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Durability over Lifetime? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Durability over Lifetime? (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually I'd be worried about how to wash them? I wash my running shoes with bleach every few months ... kills the bacteria
Crazy runners... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Crazy runners... (Score:5, Funny)
Once I wept for I had no shoes. Then I came across a man who had no feet, so I took his shoes. I mean, it's not like he really needed them.
Re:Crazy runners... (Score:5, Funny)
Never criticise a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Then, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have his shoes!
Re:Crazy runners... (Score:5, Informative)
These high-tech shoes seem like something that would appeal more to the wannabes. It's their money, so...
Re:Crazy runners... (Score:2, Interesting)
cough... Shoe-PU... cough
Re:Crazy runners... (Score:4, Interesting)
So there is market for it. It just depends on the price tag.
Sport Legality? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Sport Legality? (Score:5, Funny)
Then you'd probably be dragged to your death.
Re:Sport Legality? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Sport Legality? (Score:2)
Races already ban things devices like headphones [although that's more for safety, the need to hear people coming around you].
Re:Sport Legality? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Sport Legality? (Score:3, Insightful)
Human feet (Score:5, Interesting)
So bare feet are better than these new shoes.
Re:Human feet (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Human feet (Score:5, Informative)
Here's another interesting site regarding barefoot running/marathoning [runningbarefoot.org].
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Re:Human feet (Score:3, Funny)
Shoes are necessary to protec
When it's hacked. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:When it's hacked. (Score:2)
A battery on a running shoe. Think about this... (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah sure (Score:5, Funny)
No one's going to buy a shoe you can't walk backwards in.
Re:Yeah sure (Score:5, Funny)
If you're running forward!
No one's going to buy a shoe you can't walk backwards in.
I take it this means that they wouldn't be backward compatible? I wonder what sort of boot process they have.
Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. (Score:5, Insightful)
You know what really would have been badass. If they added bluetooth capability between it and a pda so you can track your workouts wirelessly. Then create a bluetooth heart rate monitor with a watch that would intergrate the entire system. You could modify your step and check your heart rate at the same time. I should start working on the patent...
Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. (Score:2)
Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. (Score:5, Informative)
The only issue is whether you can get some electricity, rather than just heat, from this work. And not increase the total work in a way that would be noticed.
There were some projects to make battery chargers in shoes I recall, but they couldn't actually get as much power as they had hoped from pezio. Springs probably would be noticed.
Re:A battery on a running shoe. Think about this.. (Score:2)
Funny maths? (Score:3, Interesting)
Assuming that is the clock rate, 20,000 readings and 10,000 calculations per second does sound a bit excessive, especcialy as the calculations must involve at least 2 readings.
Google link. (Score:5, Informative)
what a gimmick (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:what a gimmick (Score:4, Informative)
alters its physical properties
would change to your different needs
change
adjust
changes its characteristics
adapts its cushioning
Hmmm so wtf does it actually do?? Looks like the same thing the pump does but without the pump.
Re:what a gimmick (Score:2)
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Re:what a gimmick (Score:3, Funny)
It all makes perfect sense.
Re:what a gimmick (Score:3, Funny)
Re:what a gimmick (Score:3, Insightful)
As a semi-serious runner, I think it will probably not sell among anyone who is already clued up about the type of footwear they require until Adidas can prove equivocally that it
Sport Legal? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Sport Legal? (Score:2)
Crash? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Crash? (Score:3, Funny)
Think of it as a built-in bitchslap from the manufacturer.. for being stupid enough to buy this thing.
'Get Smart' gadgets I'd like to see (Score:2)
And since phone booths are going out of style, I guess we need a cellphone that can also act as a hidden trapdoor to our lair?
Good for astroturf use (Score:5, Interesting)
Honestly, what's the point? If the goal is to change the shoe characteristics, why not include a little adjustable screw so the wearer can manually change various tensions? This sounds like a lousy solution in search of a problem, and a badly marketed one at that.
Re:Good for astroturf use (Score:2)
10,000 calculations does not mean 10MHz, at least, not in marketing speak.
Consider the average NYT reader's brainpower: A calculation is the number of times the CPU comes up with results, not how many clock cycles it takes to get to that output.
That being said, the chip is likely highly optimized to do exactly one thing.
Think back to the RISC debate... But in this case, you only need a handful of instru
login stuff (Score:4, Informative)
u/p: nytslashdot
Smell my shoes (Score:4, Funny)
Mr. Enderle has obviously never been in the vicinity of _my_ shoes.
yeah but (Score:4, Funny)
shameless, I know
wrong icon (Score:4, Funny)
I guess I know where to stick my foot next time...
Re:wrong icon (Score:2)
A condom for /. users? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:A condom for /. users? (Score:2)
Except me that is.
The tennis shoes wore computers? (Score:2, Funny)
Sweet (Score:3, Interesting)
Top ten reasons not to buy these shoes (Score:2)
2. Change the battery every 100hrs????
3. Change the battery every 100hrs????
4. Change the battery every 100hrs????
5. Change the battery every 100hrs????
6. Change the battery every 100hrs????
7. Change the battery every 100hrs????
8. Change the battery every 100hrs????
9. Change the battery every 100hrs????
10. Ahh screw it...
On another note, if Longhorn is gonna need a TB of disk space, what the hell will my shoes be running in 2008? I mean, does it really take t
motor? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:motor? (Score:3, Interesting)
Start worrying when... (Score:3, Funny)
with all this technology and... (Score:3, Insightful)
if the processor doesn't use alot of power, I'd think if they include some sort of kinetic power generator, that it won't need batteries.
GPS? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:GPS? (Score:2)
A quick google search shows it can be found for $179 [shoplite.com]
Damn, these things are getting cheap. I am seriously considering buying one. Any advices ?
But how fast can it adjust? (Score:2)
20000 readings per second seems like more than enough... but the article makes no mention of how fast the motor can respond to that information. Does the shoe adjust each fraction of a second, changing as the foot hits the
The Wrong Shoes? The Wrong Trousers? (Score:5, Funny)
-Mikey P
battery life (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:battery life (Score:2)
special shoe chip add on for slashdot (Score:3, Funny)
and Verizon isn't in on this? (Score:2)
more importantly, when do i get to play bejeweled on the built-in communications device?
metaphysical questions (Score:3, Funny)
So now you have to RTFM to get some exercise (Score:5, Insightful)
So, does these shoes have a CD-ROM-drive built-in or how one is going to use the manual on the road? Because, it would suck quite royally ass if the BSOD strikes while running at the woods and you have to try to figure out, how to reboot your shoes. And what if the batteries run out? The only thing you can do with the manual is to wave it and hope someone equipped with pair of AAA-batteries (or whatever the shoes are using) and a laptop would see you (a laptop is required because the manual contains the instructions, how to change batteries).
These shoes will bring us to a totally new level of complexity of having some exercise.
Re:So now you have to RTFM to get some exercise (Score:2)
Re:So now you have to RTFM to get some exercise (Score:2)
It's a fookin' SHOE. Not a powered cement block. The person wearing the shoe will still be able to move about while wearing them - they just won't have whatever special "feature" the enhancements add.
Furthermore, do you seriously think the manual will be needed? How many people do you know that RTFM? I know one, and that's myself (at least in the real world). Then, only when I need to. I seriously doubt the interface for a running shoe is terribly difficult to figure out by
Sensor data? (Score:2)
I think a lot of runners would find sensor data gathered from the shoe to be more valuable. It could help with performance improvements, to record your exact pace throughout a run. It could help to diagnose or even prevent injuries - if it could tell by the impact sensors that you are pronating this could help a lot. A big part of curing/preventing running injuries is diagnosing the problem.
Combine the sensor data with GPS tracking, and you'
Every 100 hours of use? (Score:3, Interesting)
That's roughly every ten days. Can you imagine changing your shoe batteries every ten days? And I thought it was bad changing my mouse batteries every four months...
-JemRe:Every 100 hours of use? (Score:3, Informative)
Best part! (Score:2)
I hope they did it while it was still alive.
If they'll put a sticker on the shoe saying that many furbies WERE harmed in the making of this product, I'll go buy one right away.
Back in ye olde eighties (Score:2)
Now we've gotta worry about 1337 hackers using our sneakers for nefarious means. Could you imagine a war mod on these sneakers? They'd have to call it "War-Jogging" or somesuch.
Adidas is watching you (Score:2, Funny)
Running barefoot (Score:5, Interesting)
One importaint peice of feedback you get, is to NOT LAND ON YOUR HEELS. Your legs and feet are not designed for you land on your heels ( but shoe companys and podaitrists would like you to think so ). Instead, bare feet teaches you to land on the your forefoot ( eg, the area around the balls of your feet, just behind your toes ).
A forefoot strike has advantages over a heel strike, In breif;
Much less chance of injury ( eg shin splints, runners knee, etc ). However, during the first two weeks of learning to run with a proper forefoot strike style, I had sore calf musles. This was the 'numb, lactic acid, ive done more than I am used to' type soreness. This is something your calfs get used to quickly, just like how your biceps grow if you do bicep curls. The main reason for less inury is because the energy absorbed from each foot landing is stored/absorbed into muscles, rather than being driven up thru your bones and joints ( eg, ankle, knee, hip, and back ) as the case with heel strikes.
It stores energy form the landing, and releases it as your body moves over your foot plant.
It allows you to run with minimal vertial motion in the torso area, if your knees are bent when your foot touches the ground. As the body goes over the footplant, the leg straigtens, which keeps the torso in the same vertial position.
And as a result, you end up running very efficently. One obvious thing about running properly ( with a forefoot strike ) is that you become very very quiet, eg, almost completely silent in the feet department, quite the opposite of the comparitive racket most runners make with the enourmous heel striking boots.
Anyway, I think that the best running shoe is one which is simply like a protective layer of skin over your foot, IE, as close to running in bare feet as possible.
And the best way to run is in bare feet, but in rare cases ( or when your just starting out ), bare feet is not always practical ( eg, sharp gravel, areas that are likely to have hidden sharp things ), but 80% of places I find I can run barefoot with no problems.
If you have injurys / problems with running, then perhaps have a look at www.runningbarefoot.org or www.posetech.com, and learn how to run properly ( with a forefoot strike style ), and do not rely on shoes to do the running for you.
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Yeah, because I know that my wife spent four years in med school and several more in residency without ever managing to learn the physiology of the part of the body she specializes in. We also get a fat monthly check from the American Heel-Strikers, Inc., for her vocal support of not using your toes.
Signed,
The husband of a podiatrist who knows more about feet than you do.
Wait a minute. (Score:2)
I saw no mention of a telephone in this shoe.
Has the submitter ever watched Get Smart?
LK
Industry and University Sr. Design Proj. Ideas (Score:3, Interesting)
100 hours battery life, the device can be modified to use kinetic engery. This would make for a nice senior design project in affective wearables. Any profs taking this project up?
GPS Tracking - Keep track of the user as they work out. Using RF to a cell phone the user is wearing, the data can be sent back to a base terminal as the cell phones cache is filled up. This could be especially useful for elderly wearers, so that their wearabouts can be tracked, and monitored by family members. If the family member stays in place for two long, emergency personal are notified, to alert of a possible fall. It could also be helpful to track children where abouts. Ethical issues are another debate.
Sensor technology - not only track foot position, but use the shoe to track Blood Volume Pressure (Oxygen levels and blood pressure) as well as pulse, and skin conductance. Sensors could be easily developed to be placed around the toes and or on the bottom of the foot, as the foot is slipped into the shoe.
Using heads up display technology or just simple voice from the cell phone again, the shoe could give feedback to the wearer as the runner is working out. It could track the workout and give progress updates. Custom programs can be added.
Make the shoe a power source for other wearable devices. It could be a convienent power source for other affective wearables and on board computing devices. All you would need to do is come out with a line of clothing that has simple fashionable connectors that would connect to the shoe to a pair of pants and or shirt so that other devices could be easily added. To allow for fast adoption, allow other manufactuers and universities to make devices for the clothing line. Give money to Sr. Design research projects that can produce wearable sensors to be used and later marketed.
The shoe, being in contact with the ground, can be used as a input / output device. When used in a car, it could direclty interface into the car, to provide the car with sensor data about the user. This could be accomplished with RF, but this is another posibility. It could give the user also other feedback about the car state, including any warnings through changing the shoes conformaty or shape, or provide a vibration. It could be easily used to keep a driver awake if he or she started to fall asleep at the wheel.
It can be used as another form of authentication. Using RF, the shoe can be used as a way of identifying the wearer based on walking styles and patterns of movement. Afater a series of steps, the user can be considered authenticated, and then can procede to move around a building with out using an ID card for entry, but instead, the shoe will transmit the user identity. Cars security, computer security, etc.
It can be used in hospitals as a tracking system for patients, nurses and doctors. It can be especially useful for ER nurses, for they are on their feet alot; so if it could detect stress in wearers legs, it could advise them to sit down and take a break. I know ER nurses can suffer from being on concrete floors for too long. This shoe can be a great help. My aunt could have used this.
This shoe though would pose a problem for airport security....have the manufactures thought about this, especially when it becomes more common place...
Keeping track of little kids is big problem for class field trips. This could be used to help enforce the buddy system. If uniforms were a must at school, these could be part of them.
If hte shoes could provide enough curent, they could be used as a light source, so that when ladies are trying to get to their cars at night, they could use the shoes as a way to light their way. If modules like these were provided for the shoes, the sales could take off quickly.
Have programs that can be used to help correct technique in sporting events. Baseball, basketball, soccer, Make a
Overclocking? Why not underclocking!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:And... (Score:2)
if you're too stupid to help find a cure, you could have worked some overtime and donated money instead.
Re:And... (Score:2)
But it IS being worked on... I've even created a software company (benchKeeper [benchkeeper.com]) that makes software to assist the scientists in those efforts.
Does that mean that people can't do other things, like make whacked out shoes that I'll never buy? Of course not.
Why do some people think that goals like finding the cure for cancer must be done at the exclusion of everything else?
What have YOU done to help find the cure, besides point out on