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Explore Mars with Maestro 180
The Maestro Team writes "NASA has released Maestro, a public version of the primary software tool used by scientists to operate the Mars Exploration Rovers from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Anyone can download Maestro for free from mars.telascience.org and use it to follow along with the rovers' progress during the mission. You can use Maestro to view pictures from Mars in 2D and 3D and create simplified rover activity plans. During the mission, updates will be released for Maestro containing the latest images from Mars."
Sounds cool (Score:1)
Re:Sounds cool (Score:2, Funny)
sloooow maestro (Score:5, Funny)
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great Maestro! (Score:4, Informative)
Maestro Headquarters
We've been Slashdotted! We'll bring up our original website as soon as we can. Meanwhile, here are links to Download Maestro:
Re:great Maestro! (Score:1)
Re:sloooow maestro (Score:1)
Amaizing isn't it?
Glad that wasnt my server, although that is a honor in and upon itself to warrent a
Miles Or Kilometers? (Score:5, Funny)
Overall Looks like an interesting idea, they should look into putting it in schools. Could be a very educational "toy" to play with.
Re:Miles Or Kilometers? (Score:3, Informative)
Rotations are quaternions I believe.
Cheers
Justin
Science Activity Planner / Maestro Support Staff
Mars Exploration Rovers
Neat idea (Score:4, Insightful)
The site has been geekflooded (Score:1, Interesting)
And could someone post a torrent file?
Re:The site has been geekflooded (Score:2)
Gee man, Beagle2 has already been scared into not uploading its Blur musical tune [beagle2.com] by the RIAA, you don't think NASA will risk antagonizing them too do you?
Torrent for Windows version (Score:5, Informative)
That is all I have been able to grab so far. I'll try to grab the OS X and Solaris(?) ones next. Someone already posted a Linux mirror, so that is less of a priority.
If anyone already has the files, you can use my tracker if you like:
andrewhitchcock.org:6969/
Andrew
Re:Torrent for Windows version (Score:2)
Tell me if that works. Sorry about the problem.
Re:Torrent for Windows version (Score:1)
You had an extra space in there.
Cheers!
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there was an extra space in the 'Win' part of the link. it should be
this.... [andrewhitchcock.org]
For those bound to complain re: NASA's performance (Score:5, Insightful)
If you are an administrator at NASA and you are told that their might be a problem with the age of the fleet and you know the odds of getting funding for a new project are near zero, do you keep that fleet flying? Of course. That's hardly the safest thing to do, but it's either that or close up shop and go work the chinese space program.
NASA puts safety as first as it can afford to. You can argue that NASA is an inefficent bureaucracy, but we seem to have no trouble financing the inefficent military bureaucracy. It's the nature of government, cope.
Re:For those bound to complain re: NASA's performa (Score:2)
It's true that NASA is not funded as well as perhaps it should. But the problem is that they have no concept of the idea of doing things halfway. Whenever they are asked for a proposal or budget estimate for nearly any subject at all, they
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Just curious: Do you believe this applies to software development in general?
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time zones (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:time zones (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/images/031 231edl.jpg
The "L" in that graphic is the landing time.
Interesting planet you are on. (Score:2)
And here I thought... (Score:5, Funny)
No, wait, come to think of it, that's nethack. A very good program to take up if you're one of the folks working with the Beagle2.
Re:And here I thought... (Score:3, Funny)
I think they should take this [flasharcade.com] up instead.
Simulation (Score:5, Funny)
Thanks to Slashdot, downloading Maestro also provides a vividly real simulation of the long months of space travel between Earth and Mars.
Re:Simulation (Score:2)
Actually, the site is now a semi-accurate representation of data rates between mars orbital/lander hardware and earth. Depending on which transmitter/antenna combinations are in use at any given time, the data rates vary from 3500 baud to 128kb, with occaisional data void periods of 8 to 16 hours due to lack of signal.
But, like any well thought out mission, the web
Re:Simulation (Score:2)
That was totally a decision made on the fly... the freecaching, the text only page, and the bittorrents were all added as soon as the webserver started flaming at the ports
Should be ba
Re:Simulation (Score:1)
Yep, 1 Kb/s is about right
Torrent? (Score:2, Informative)
This looks like a lot of fun, though. Big thanks to the folks on the Maestro Team!
Re:Torrent? (Score:3, Informative)
I was downloading the Windows version (since I already saw a Linux version) but the server crashed in the middle of the download.
Re:Torrent? (Score:3, Informative)
Linux torrent (since the mirror seems to be bogus) here [uiuc.edu].
Re:Torrent? (Score:3, Interesting)
Andrew,
My name is Jeff Norris - I led the development of Maestro. Thank you for offering your Bit Torrent link - it saved us from totally crashing under the
What I want to know is this: can you tell me how many people have downloaded Maestro via your link? We are desperately trying to keep track of the total number of downloads and we have no way to track the traffic going through your bittorrent.
You can contact me at maestro@telascience.org
Thanks again!
Jeff
Damn backseat drivers (Score:3, Funny)
Fantastic. It's the one in the "1 in 6" to make it, and it's just going to sit there quivering trying to figure out which of 1000 commands to follow!
("Back away from the reply button!" It's a joke. And yes, I've had people reply to jokes 'correcting' me and then amazingly get modded 'insightful' for it.)
Now if I could just tap into an uplink (Score:4, Funny)
-cp-
President Bush to Liberate Alaska! [alaska-freegold.com]
Can we have rover races when they land? (Score:1, Funny)
Meanwhile, on the surface of Mars... (Score:2, Funny)
*downloading* (Score:3, Funny)
Oopsie (Score:1, Funny)
Demo Only (Score:4, Funny)
What they don't tell you up front is that if you actually want to run your own mission, you're going to have to pony up at least $100 million to buy a probe of your own. NASA stands to make a pretty penny if they sucker many people to buy into this scheme.
Software Updates for Images?! (Score:4, Insightful)
What a poor design! They have to update the software in order to get new images? That's got to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. Did they forget that the Internet exists where you can update images and indexes automatically? Sheesh.
Re:Software Updates for Images?! (Score:1)
waiting to download...
Re:Software Updates for Images?! (Score:5, Informative)
Disclaimer: I'm a junior member of the Maestro Development team, however most of my work was on the mission version (SAP), not the public version.
The original specifications for Maestro (originally called WITS) contained an automatic updating client called MECS (Multimission Encrypted Communications System). I worked heavily on this the summer of 2002, and it was really great. It was going to work a bit like CVS in that it used deltas to transfer changes between versions of files, and had intelligent merging of XML content, etc. However due to funding constraints, the plug was pulled on MECS so there are no automatic updates.
There is a scientist version of SAP for use on personal computers that uses something called SAP-SYNC that automatically updates everything by comparing what's on client with server ahnd using LFTP, however it was theorized that the load on JPL's servers would be far to great to do that for all of our fans out there.
It was decided because of the massive budget cuts, little funding, and of course the fact that our staff has dropped down to all of three people to keep things simple. Doing things this way makes it possible to bittorrent things (I actually told them to bittorrent this for slashdotting about a year ago, however things have been so hectic here I"m not surprised they didn't!)
If you're interested in the design of MECS and how it was supposed to function, check out this paper [nasa.gov].
As for the people complaining about the design, we don't really like it either! Write your congressman, get NASA outreach more funding, and we'll have things to really engage the population!
Cheers,
Justin Wick
Science Activity Planner Support Staff
Mars Exploration Rovers
Re:Indexes is not a word, it's indices. Who is dum (Score:2)
Here We are... (Score:2)
Help! (Score:5, Insightful)
Path Disclosure Error in Site due to /.ing (Score:2)
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Back up! (Score:2, Funny)
Woohoo, it's Java (Score:2)
2 GHz laptop with lots of RAM and HD.
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AthonXP 1700+/512MB, Linux 2.4.21, nvidia driver v1.0.4363
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OS X Torrent?? (Score:1)
Looks cheap (Score:1)
Re:Looks cheap (Score:1)
Ok, Slashdot, we're ready for you now (Score:5, Informative)
IRC channel: #maestro on irc.freenode.net (Score:5, Informative)
Jeff
Re:IRC channel: #maestro on irc.freenode.net (Score:1)
120 bps (Score:1)
ok, I swear i won't bitch about 26400 bps again....
Hola (Score:1)
Soy estudiante Ingles (Frances e Historia a la universidad de Warwick) y quiero entender el punto de vista oficial de la republica Cuba sobre su existencia y su tratamiento por el mundo occidental, especialmente por los estados unidos. He aprehendido el Espanol por algunos anos pero no suficientes para entenderlo totalmente. Existe un sitio Internet para que los extranjeros que no hablan el espanol puedan estudiar para que exista el estado cubano actual?
FYI: Java3d download for Mac OS X Panther (Score:4, Informative)
CNN Is carrying the landing live (Score:2)
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Loaded software, need help... (Score:1)
I know this isn't a "Maestro" help area, but I'll post anyway...
I've loaded Maestro and tried out "Go to ISIL test facility" with success, but when I go to "Go to "Spirit's Landing Site", I get "you have not yet loaded data from Spirit, return to Maestro website to download ...". What do I do now? Where do I get the data?
Re:Loaded software, need help... (Score:4, Informative)
There has not been a sprit release yet. There is one coming in a few days. You can't go to Spirit's Landing Site yet.
Cheers,
Justin Wick
Science Activity Planner / Maestro Support Staff
Mars Exploration Rovers
Re:Warning : Contains Virus. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Houston, we have a problem (Score:1)
Re:full text of article (Score:1)
Re:Installers (Score:2, Informative)
For those interested, the installer script is called 'install-Ma
Re:Installers (Score:1)
I have no idea what the process would be for non-Linux versions. There's an FAQ on j3d here [j3d.org] if anyone needs help.
Re:Installers (Score:4, Insightful)
Here are the steps for MS Windows.
Download file which includes a JRE.
Double click file and install
(the easiest of all systems, but only by one step)
Done
Here are the steps for Linux.
Download file which includes a JRE.
Doubl click it in Nautilus to open it (It is a tar file and will open in FileRoller which is no different then opening a zip file in WinZip.)
Extract the contents to where ever you please
In Nautilus just double click the install-Maestro file to install.
Done.
Only ONE more step the under MS Windows. You CAN make a self extracting and installing archive for Linux just as you can for MS Windows (this is one of the ways that Sun distributes Java for Linux. The people who made these installs chose not to. Maybe LEARN how to do something BEFORE you shoot your mouth off. Most Linux users won't use the simple point-n-click method I outlined above. Why? Because many love the command line and find it easier and faster. So the steps a command line lover might have followed would have been
tar -zxf Maestro-Linux.tar.gz
cd R2004*
sh install-Maestro
done
If man was meant to run java (Score:2)
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My MDK 9.2 is running Maestro perfectly!
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