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Successful First Launch of Aerospike Engine
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on Sun Sep 28, 2003 05:37 AM
from the whoosh-bang dept.
from the whoosh-bang dept.
ScottKin writes "CSULB announced that on September 21st they achieved a milestone in aerospace engineering when they successfully launched their 'Prospector 2' rocket powered by an 'Aerospike' engine. What makes this remarkable is that even NASA had trouble with testing their incarnation of an Aerospike engine - but the Linear Aerospike Engine is quite a different beast. More info on this definitely-newsworthy even can be found at the California Space Authority website."
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I ask everybody ... (Score:2, Funny)
For the lbf impaired (Score:5, Informative)
The sea level thrust of this engince (204,420 lbf) is equivalent to 900,404 Newtons.
In comparison, the Space Shuttle engines produce 2,174,286 Newtons at sea level.
What did they do different? (Score:2)
Redefined success (Score:5, Informative)
Real innovation in this engine is the use of ablative shielding inside the chamber. But that makes it even harder to overcome the original problem of this type of engine; having steady and stable burn/gas flow (ie. equal thrust) around the annulus. Linear aerospike engine does this by replacing one large chamber with numerous small ones which are easier to control.
Nice diagram (Score:3, Informative)
Aerospike introduction (Score:5, Informative)
(http://www.dkennedy.org/)
Caution: It is rocket science, and a little bit of maths is required to appreciate even this introduction.
story from CSULB with a little more detail (Score:5, Informative)
(http://people.redhat.com/caillon/)
Successful? (Score:3, Funny)
(http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/M.Handley)
I guess that's a form of success. But there's probably a reason why everyone else is still doing ground tests.
Sounds like (Score:2)
And in other news... (Score:2)
(Last Journal: Thursday September 13, @12:15PM)
Space development by students (Score:1)
Though the benefit of a aerospike nozzle is effective only in a flight through which the back pressure varies (i.e. sealevel to very high, like SSTO), at now, the aerospike-nozzle-powered flight itself is important.
Besides, this rocket was made by students. What kind of other space engine development are there in the world?
Sadly (Score:5, Insightful)
The motor worked except that, well actually it went badly wrong very soon after launch. Combustion gases went the wrong way and caused the engine to malfunction.
Result: crash. Destruction of payload.
I guess the definition of success came from the people who defined "interception" of Scuds by Patriots in Gulf war 1 as meaning more or less that both missiles were in the air at the same time.
Meanwhile, relatively primitive Russian rockets continue very reliable and Ariane just put up another two comms satellites last night, plus the European moon mission which is aiming for some sort of record as the slowest trip to the Moon ever. Far from being an endorsement of private research versus NASA, it suggests that caution and extensive testing remains the norm in anything to do with rocketry. Even if the next flight is successful, I guess a huge amount of further work would be needed before anyone would risk a real commercial payload on a rocket using this nozzle technology.
Hurrah (Score:2)
Finally (Score:2)
(http://mod-god.com/)
Altho it terminated after a couple hundred feet, we know one thing. It can lift off. The hardest part of any flight.
All you nay-sayers, go fly a god damn kite.
This isn't an aerospike nozzle, it's a plug nozzle (Score:2, Informative)
(http://slashdot.org/)
A plug nozzle is a tapering nozzle; ideally tapering down to infinity, you always chop it off short for obvious reasons.
An aerospike nozzle is a plug nozzle but it gets its name because you're supposed to inject gas in the base to provide extra pressure - that gas is the 'air' spike. And the main advantages come about because you dynamically adjust the pressure of the base dependent on the vehicle speed to optimise the shape of the aerospike and give maximum possible thrust. (Basically the air spike pushes on the exhaust gases which in turn push on the ambient air, the result is that the nozzle can compensate for the atmospheric pressure changes over the flight envelope better than a conventional 'bell nozzle').
Now this nozzle had no base gas injection, so is in fact just a plug nozzle. Plug nozzles aren't bad, but aren't necessarily anything like as good as an aerospike.
Trouble testing aerospike? (Score:2)
Can you back that up? From what I read, the aerospike tests went fine. A friend, one of the Shuttle engine designers and who was in contact with the linear aerospike group at Rocketdyne, said he heard that the aerospike delivered the expected thrust during its ground tests. So what troubles are you referring to?
I often wondered if NASA didn't screw up cancelling the X-33. The only major failure that I know of in that project was the fuel tank and given that it was the one of the only two they ever made, it seemed like giving up cooking because your first few tries end up tasting lousy. When the X-33 tried to recover from the tank failure by testing the craft with temporary aluminum replacement tanks, NASA pulled the plug because the extra weight of the temporary tanks would compromise the test rocket's performance. Seemed short sighted at the time and I've never seen anything since that indicated it was the right thing to do.
Mirror? (Score:1)
kinda off topic (Score:1)
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the moon! alice the the moon! (Score:1)
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It WAS a failure with the engine (Score:2)
The graphite outer ring (blue) was not perfectly sealed with the bottom of the chamber (grey) and moved downward very slightly. This opened several gas paths between the ring and the ablative material (beige) which then melted the back of the chamber and led to thrust vectoring. This phenomenon did not occur during the static fire test.
So it looks like the test did ultimately fail due to a problem with the engine. Nevertheless, the rocket did fly.
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Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist.
Gotta love the spin... (Score:1)
(http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/)
These guys have been learning PR from NASA and Microsoft.
Re:Research is good... (Score:2, Informative)
Considering that the space elevator is just very slightly beyond the pipe dream stage, yes.
You won't see the end of rocket delivered sattelites for some years to come. I'm sure companies aren't putting their sattelites on hold, only beacause there might be a space elevator some day.
Re:Research is good... (Score:2)
Re:Huzzah for Free Enterprise (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://slashdot.org/volmarias.semimajor.net | Last Journal: Thursday November 27 2003, @05:32AM)
Re:Research is good... (Score:2)
No. (Score:2, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Saturday January 06 2007, @01:13AM)
1) The fail scenarios of space elevators are not very good. Think about the possible fail scenarios from the various areas: political, military, natural disaster, engineering. Consider the impacts and probabilities.
2) Space elevators only get you up to geostationary (and maybe 2X), they don't get you much further than that.
3) From the perspective of the Solar System, they are a very expensive form of navel gazing.
From a longer term perspective it is better to spend the resources on finding cheaper ways to get to geostationary and to other planets. And maybe even other systems.
Once we reach the technological level to do all that cheaply, THEN we can consider building the space elevator - because it'll be a piece of cake by then. Have all the tech to make it viable.
Just because you think you've figured out how to make the concrete doesn't mean you should start building a skyscraper. Don't try to build skyscrapers before you develop cranes and the rest of the tech and systems.
Re:on this date in history (Score:1)
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Not just bureaucracy (Score:2)
1) NASA appears to lack a intentional mission. It's de-facto publically assumed mission is something along lines of "do space stuff". But it has few real "space stuff" goals, because it has no (profit) incentive to go there. Shuttle "science experiments" are ludicrous. The ISS does nothing and goes nowhere, expensively.
In reality, as evidenced by all the politicians' attitudes to NASA (even during their condolence speeches), its real mission is: national self-congratulation, international self-promotion, congressional pork, and a vague continuance of the "sense of progress" of the moon landing years.
Naturally the above is not conducive to good "space stuff".
2) NASA is funded, not invested in. Their budget isn't going away (unless, perversely, they demonstrate they can do more with less, which would lead to them being de-funded). The source of their money is politicians, not commercial profits. Actual success brings them no payback, and failure does them no harm. The incentives this gives are: pocket the budget, don't waste it on any actual space stuff, and beg continually for more funding.
3) For this funding, they are expcted to produce immediate bigness, not gradual affordable advancement. Thus their attitude to problem solution consists of "throwing money at it".
A good analogy here is the architechtural construction techniques of the Egyptian pharaohs. You can build quite big pyramids if you throw a fortune and an army of slaves at the job. But it doesn't scale, it doesn't advance the state of the art, and, crucially, it doesn't get any cheaper when you do it more often. It was the brick-and-mortar commercial construction industry that led via engineering advances to modern skyscraper construction.
When NASA complains of underfunding, it's analogous to the pharaonic architects complaining that their skyscraper plans are hobbled by the shortage of slaves.
Re:on this date in history (Score:1)
(http://www.kindorf.net/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @11:08PM)
If you can wait until the 24th Century, I think we'll have things pretty well nailed-down. In order to wait until that time, have you considered Cryogenic Storage of your body?