Promising Norwegian HIV vaccine Tested 57
mkeke writes "The Norway Post is reporting: "A new Norwegian vaccine against HIV has attracted interest abroad, and is now being tested on 40 Norwegian HIV patients. The vaccine apparently helps to repair the patients' immune system, thus preventing the development of aids."
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article text (Score:3, Informative)
A new Norwegian vaccine against HIV has attracted interest abroad, and is now being tested on 40 Norwegian HIV patients.
-What we have seen so far, is that around 90 per cent of the patients have developed a new type of immunity which they did not have before joining the test project, says head of the project, Dag Kvale, Medical Director of the Ullevaal University Hospital in Oslo to TV2.
The vaccine, which has been developed by the Skien based company Bionor Immuno, apparently helps to repair the patients' immune system, thus preventing the development of aids, TV2 reports.
The patients will not be cured, but the new vaccine will possibly enable them to live with the virus without becoming sick with aids.
In September, representatives from the US National Health Institute will arrive in Norway to discuss the possibility for testing the vaccine on several thousand US HIV patients.
Interesting, but ... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's too bad the details are so scarce in the article. It would be nice to know exactly what this vaccine does (enhance T-cells, etc?). For the moment, this news isn't very helpful to the majority of HIV sufferers. I suppose any progress is progress, though.
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I would think that the main problem is actually that AIDS is killing millions of people directly and ruining hundreds of millions of lives indirectly as the economy suffers or they lose their family and friends. Improved education and a proper cure would of course be better, but if HIV could be made non-life threatening, I think that would be a ma
Re:Interesting, but ... (Score:2)
If you don't have improved education or a cure then extending the lives of the infected is probably going to increase the overall infection rate.
Don't interpret that as a value judgement.
Re:Interesting, but ... (Score:2)
Which from the perspective of a shareholder in a pharmaceutical company with AIDS/HIV intellectual property is excellent news. If they can just prevent some rogue company from discovering a genuinely effective vaccine/cure for the virus itself they can keep raking in the profits until their patents expire.
Even the companies themselves will openly admit that they
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I do find it amusing that you chose the wording "error checking". You must be a networking professional. Hooray for the 802.3 and LLC!
Thank god it's Norway (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Thank god it's Norway (Score:2, Informative)
And no, Norway has never been part of the Soviet Union.
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And in some countries, pharmaceutical companies produce pharmaceuticals rather than the highest possible surplus.
Re:Uhhhh, riiiiight (Score:2)
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You couldn't possibly be talking about the same ultra-capitalist country who wants to give a 25 billion dollars [msnbc.com] to Africa while it's country is in the middle of a recession could you?
Yes, the big evil US empire that allo
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as for those visas, they're also happen to be a huge boon in terms of cheep highly skilled labor for big campaign contributors [microsoft.com]
Re:Thank god it's Norway (Score:1)
news sources? Something to back up your argument please? Yes, the visa's provide cheap labor for big companies at the expense of American citizens...Is that a good thing for America or bad?
Re:Thank god it's Norway (Score:1)
(a label really brought to the forefront by roger ailes, regan's propagana minister, who now heads Fox News)
those articles on truthout are not written by truthout. they are merely mirrored there.
try reading them.
as for waxman's site. the evidence is all there --thoroughly presented with sources.
present a rational counter argument, and maybe i'll be able to respond.
spout labels and i really have nothing else to say.
Re:Thank god it's Norway (Score:1)
yes, i had to look for stories about these issues in media that dares to critisize the president.
Again, you fail to adress ANY of the issues. But your labels have gotten uglier.
Do you dispute the facts in these articles?
If so,present your own that show specificaly otherwise. If not, then you again have just labeled me liberal
Vaccine (Score:5, Insightful)
HIV is the virus, but the 'vaccine' does not prevent HIV infection, it helps stop the effects of the HIV. I think they mean it's a vaccine in the sense that it can prevent AIDS.
An HIV infected person will still have HIV and can still transmit it to other people, even if they have had this vaccine.
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How's your foot taste? (Score:2)
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IANAI (I am not an immunologist), but I think that one reason researchers are taking that path is that it's easier to do trials. One problem with preventative vaccines for HIV is that because HIV suppresses the immune system, vaccines for it can tend to do the same and several have actually caused the vaccine recipient to contract HIV. Furthermo
Wording (Score:4, Informative)
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A true HIV vaccine would be given to individuals so that if they were to be exposed to HIV, their bodies would be able to fight off the virus.
40 people is a small sample size (Score:1)
It's nice to see AIDS vaccines working out, though. It's our best hope in the fight against the disease.
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Another step on the long road (Score:1)
It used to be that the doctors just pumped you full of antibiotics to keep infections away, then they created drugs to repress the virus, and now we can actuall repair the immune system.
This is a great example of how research and developement (or even the scientific method) needs to work. It may seem like things are progressing slowly, but compared to (say) the fight against malaria, thing are progressing much more rapidly.
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Bill Gates saving the world (Score:3, Interesting)
AIDS tamed with a helping hand form Bill? Stranger things could happen. I just can't imagine what they are. :-)
I applaud the research and accomplishments of the project!
Jouni
Re:Bill Gates saving the world (Score:2)
It is possible to have a business face and a personal face that are largely different. Even though most of the money for this is generated through the Microsoft machine.
Re:Bill Gates saving the world (Score:2)
Amounts in thousands
PROGRAM AREA 2002 2001
Global Health $506,984 $855,567
Education 413,121 177,944
Libraries 44,607 43,176
Pacific Northwest 121,874 36,511
Special Projects 70,141 33,403
Other:
Employee Matching Gifts/Sponsorships 738 356
$1,157,465 $1,146,957
The foundation has total net assets in excess of 37 billion.
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Frustrating ... (Score:2)
Small sample (Score:1)
The 90% may seem like the treatment is a huge success. However, 40 patients is a very small sample size. It
this could lead to additional problems (Score:1)
think about it
lets say you have AIDS
are you a person who caught AIDS because of blood transfusions, operations, a cop who got bit by some infected addict, or are you someone who caught it from casual sex?
if the latter, are you going to be very careful with using condoms etc. (are you even going to TELL your partners/potential victims you have HIV? I mean, hey, you look healthy, and are they going to say "yes" to sex with you (even with a condom) when you've told them you have HIV? In which case, are you
Do a little searching! (Score:2)
Name of project
IMMUNOTHERAPY OF HIV-INFECTED PATIENTS (CTN B-HIV-1/99)
Short name of project:
HIV Immunotherapy
Relevant keywords describing the project:
Immunisation, therapeutic vaccine, Phase I study, HIV, p24, peptides
Principal investigator
Name: Nina Langeland
Title/Position: