Slashdot Log In
Swarm Theory Applied to Music
Posted by
timothy
on Wed Mar 19, '03 04:26 PM
from the fire-ants dept.
from the fire-ants dept.
JoeCotellese writes "There is an article in Discover magazine about computer scientist/musician Tim Blackwell and his Swarm
Music software. This software creates improvisational music based on models of swarming
and flocking. The observation was made that interaction among musicians is interdependent and yet independent and this dynamic parallels flock
dynamics. Computer generated music has been around for a while but according to his web site, this project was the first application of swarm theory to music. Sample MP3s are available on his website."
Related Stories
[+]
Hardware: Swarm Theory Makes National Geographic 206 comments
g8orade writes "Swarm Behavior / Swarm Theory has made the pages of National Geographic. Brief but interesting article with several examples." Swarm theory has been discussed here a few times in recent years.
This discussion has been archived.
No new comments can be posted.
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
Quantification of Determinism in Music
(Score:3, Interesting)MP3?
(Score:2, Interesting)(http://www.duder.net/ | Last Journal: Wednesday December 19, @01:54PM)
Re:MP3?
(Score:5, Informative)(Last Journal: Friday July 18, @03:55PM)
Douglas Adams would be proud!
(Score:4, Interesting)(http://blog.durdle.com/)
Re:Douglas Adams would be proud!
(Score:4, Informative)(Last Journal: Thursday August 05, @02:40PM)
he specifically mentions the conversion of a flock of birds to sounds
On a side note... that link should goto: http://www.iblist.com/book.php?id=252
here?
SUPPORT THE INTERNET BOOK LIST! SUBMIT A BOOK!
Similar Project
(Score:5, Informative)(http://www.mattlary.com/ | Last Journal: Sunday May 11, @11:50PM)
Here's a link to information on his genetic algorithm, GenJam [rit.edu].
-Matt
I'm not not licking toads!
(Score:2)(Last Journal: Friday July 18, @03:55PM)
what is music?
(Score:1, Interesting)but is it music?
(Score:3, Funny)(http://www.badpuns.com/)
No one has mentioned....
(Score:2, Funny)UCSD's modern music department
(Score:4, Informative)These are not especially new ideas.
Sounds like...
(Score:2, Funny)Musical structure
(Score:1, Interesting)I humbly propose that this is an overly simplified way of looking at music. It may be that the reporter missed the significant details of the project, and I freely admit that my experience (and interest) in jazz music is awfully limited, but still, I claim that music must be more than this. There are well established features of music not even hinted at in the article, like repetition of small themes or larger parts of the music, or balancing the features in the beginning of the piece against those at the end. Even simple harmonic progressions sound unlikely to emerge from this system.
Just because it's sound, doesn't mean it's music!
(Score:1)Evolutionary Music
(Score:2)(http://foo.ewu.edu/ | Last Journal: Monday June 18, @01:43PM)
It produced some horrible noises and a few amazing ones. It produced some dull images and a few astonishing ones.
I don't have web space for it at the moment and have been slowly (its now my third or fourth pass so I'm getting a bit tired of it) working on the code to make it cleaner and add some more flexibility in terms of the kind of problem it will solve. In particular I'd like to make it possible to run more easily as a web page and to make it possible for downloaded versions to load good "genes" up to the web page. I suspect that will help to make the resulting music/images more interesting.
Once I have a decent version that I don't mind having other people look at, I'll be putting it on some open source site (like sourceforge).
Harkens back to Forbidden Planet...
(Score:1)(Last Journal: Wednesday September 10, @03:38PM)
Sounds like the Krelb music they played, except that this must be the amateur section (or instrument tuning)...
Sounds like the swarm bots are not communicating amongst themselves...
Might find a use in tranquility
(Score:1)Alternatively, perhaps it could learn a thing or two from the related work already done in tranquility [tqworld.com]. From the tranquility website (see introduction -> technology):