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Shall we play a game? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:5, Funny)
Or Tic Tac Toe...
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Or Tetris...
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Why do we let EA live?
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Who's EA?
[Runs away and hides...]
Comment removed (Score:2)
Re: Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
3D is for pussies. The only way to play tic tac toe is on a 4x4x4x4 hypercube. A straight line of four in any direction wins.
Seriously, try it.
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Yeah, nothing like playing a game and having an ad pop up as you are about to make a move... Tic-Tac-DOH!
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why can't anyone make a decent version of Global Thermonuclear War?
Because the only way to win is not to play.
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:3, Informative)
No love for DEFCON [introversion.co.uk]?
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:5, Funny)
Why can't anyone make a decent version of Global Thermonuclear War?
They tried it out in Japan, but it wasn't well-received. It started out with a bang -- it was really hot for a while and made a lot of noise at first -- but there was a lot of pressure which led to some major backlash, then the whole thing mushroomed from there. Overall, it was a big bomb.
They developed an upgraded version for the US and Russia, but that went cold and was never implemented. The plan called for an initial launch in Cuba, but there was some sort of crisis and everything that had been shipped was recalled.
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:3)
First Strike (I have it on Android) is pretty good as well. Fast paced once things get started.
Re:Shall we play a game? (Score:2)
Are you buy any chance talking about DWF's Eschaton [nowhereband.org]?
[Illustration [flic.kr]]
Go (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Go (Score:3)
Atari.
Re:Go (Score:2)
Re:Go (Score:2)
Gin!
Re:Go (Score:2)
Re:Go (Score:2)
Touchdown!
Re:Go (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Go (Score:2)
Oh, how I wish I had moderator points.
There is death in the hane (Score:2)
Go. How could you miss that one?
Someone should hane whoever came up with this poll.
Re:Go (Score:2)
Re:Go (Score:3)
Social Opportunity (Score:4, Insightful)
My choice is Poker, because for me, it's the most social of the games listed. When my friends and I were all local to each other (we're now scattered to opposite ends of the country), we'd get together for penny-ante games that were more about conversation, jokes and obscure movie references than about gambling. The big winner of the night might leave $4-5 richer, the big loser might drop $2-3, but everyone would have had a great time.
Re:Social Opportunity (Score:2)
We still use one of the big poker sites to host our free games, then include a Google Hangout on top of it for some multi-person video conferencing, allowing people cross-country to virtually play at the same table.
Re:Social Opportunity (Score:2)
We had games like that in high school. Best poker experience ever.
Re:Social Opportunity (Score:2)
Penny ante sucks and is not really poker. You can't bluff in penny ante, everybody is always going to call. Might as well play 'go fish'.
Re:Social Opportunity (Score:2)
We did that a few times with Texas Hold'Em except with a winner-takes-it-all prize, but the challenge was finding the sweet spot where there's enough at stake that people take it a bit seriously but not too seriously. With no money involved it was just crazy random play, people didn't care so they played the way that was most fun like playing every hand, pulling off the most absurd bluffs and so on. It gets old pretty quick and there's no penalty to busting out, the resemblance to real poker was minimal.
On the other hand, a few got very competitive and very serious the moment there was even a bit of money involved - and I know enough about where they work and what they make to know it was pocket money it was just their personality quirks kicking in. That too ended up something of a buzz-kill, after all we're friends chatting and having beers not pro tournament players crunching statistics. If you avoid getting tipsy at the end of the evening because of the prize, the prize is too large. Instead we mostly play Wii/WiiU.
bridge is social too (Score:2)
All of that applies to bridge too. The main problem with bridge is that you need multiples of four to play.
Chess (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Chess (Score:3)
possibly the only game ever invented...no element of chance
Wat?!?
Go? Arimaa? Tic-Tac-Toe?
Re:Chess (Score:3)
Chess is the only game (possibly the only game ever invented) that has no element of chance whatsoever. You win or lose purely by the decisions you make and the power of your own intellect. Even though I'm not very good, I do find it a stimulating and very satisfying game.
Possibly the only game event invented that has no element of chance? You need to try more games, it's not even the only one in that list. Anyway, a lack of chance doesn't by itself make chess better or worse than anything else.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
When you play a bridge tournament, you play as part of a 4-person team. All the cards are dealt and placed in boards such that once they're played, they're replaced back as the North, South, East, or West hand.
Now your team of 4 is split into two partnerships, one playing all the N/S hands, one playing all the E/W hands. For any given hand of N,S,E,W, what counts isn't what your partnership does on your cards (either N/S or E/W), it's the delta between what your other partnership scored and what you scored. So, if you and X are playing North/South, and your other team members are playing E/W, then for every hand its your score - their score becomes your team score for that deck of cards.
In this way, there is no element of luck. Every team plays the same cards, every team plays both pairings (N/S and E/W), and only the difference matters. It's pure skill, both in bidding what you will make, and then playing the cards to actually make your bid. You can "win" the deck by causing someone who bid a grand-slam to lose a trick, and get the maximum points for that deck to your team.
Bridge is a truly excellent game. Simple rules, but incredibly challenging to execute correctly every time.
Simon
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Re:Chess (Score:2)
I was going to say pretty much the same thing and you beat me to it. When I was young I loved bridge so much. My parents played duplicate bridge in a local group and taught me to play and let me say, being a bridge-playing only child is incredibly frustrating. The only way I could get a chance to play was if someone came to visit by themselves, who also played bridge, and who didn't mind playing with a young kid. That didn't happen much.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
I played a lot of bridge in college & grad school, but then only read about clubs playing in the middle of the day. Just six weeks ago, I found a local club that has evening games, and I'm getting back into the groove after two decades of playing only bad contract bridge every other year when Christmas was at my parents' house.
Check for local bridge clubs where you are; they love to have younger players, and most are happy to accommodate singletons until they find a regular partner.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Re:Chess (Score:2)
The AI in master chess computers, in essence try as many combinations as possible to find the best outcome. However it still takes way to long to process all the possible games. So there is a degree of trimming involved. Meaning not all combinations are in play. So there is a particular degree of randomness based on what future actions we choose to predict and not.
I personally stink at chess and can barely see 2 moves ahead of me.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Actually, if properly (perfectly?) played, doesn't White win? So that random selection at the very beginning really determines the inevitable outcome?
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Nope, if both sides play pretty much perfectly they'll always draw, I think.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
While it seems likely that perfect play by both sides in chess will result in a stalemate, a quick search didn't turn up any actual research that proves it. Interestingly, for Go, there is a simple argument to see that perfect play will result in a draw, provided that the komi [wikipedia.org] (handicap points awarded to white as compensation for moving second) are chosen optimally.
Let's say we have two theoretically perfect players playing a game of go. In normal go games, it doesn't matter what the difference in points is at the end of the game, you win so long as your point total exceeds that of the opponent. That fact affects real world strategies: if you're winning, you should play conservatively, solidifying the territory you already have a claim on, rather than trying riskier moves for even more points (similarly, if you're behind, you need to try to shoot the moon, so to speak, rather than try to minimize your losses). However, for perfect players, there is no such thing as risk; playing to maximize your score relative to your opponent's score is consistent with playing to win. When our hypothetical players play a game this way to optimize the score, what the actual point difference will be in the end is completely determined. If that point difference is taken to be the handicap, then perfect play results in a draw.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
I always played chess to stalemate. It's usually a mistake on my opponents' part that hands me the game. I've lost probably 2% of the games I've ever played.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Actually, if properly (perfectly?) played, doesn't White win?
It's an open maths question, nobody has ever number crunched the perfect game.
Re:Chess (Score:3)
Re:Chess (Score:3)
Re:Chess (Score:2)
I don't know.
Re:Chess (Score:2)
Spades (Score:2)
Spades is my favorite card game. Used to play just about every night with my suitemates.
Re:Spades (Score:2)
Re:Spades (Score:2)
Nah, 500.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5... [wikipedia.org]
Missed a lot of classes in college playing that.
Munchkin! (Score:3)
Re:Munchkin! (Score:2)
It can be, but it can also get to be a bit of a slogfest with more than two or three players. I've played games that have lasted six hours because the incentive is to constantly team up against the person in the lead, and there are so many ways to knock them down. I've also seen people get pissed off at other people while playing, which is probably to be expected in a game that openly encourages you to stab your buddy in the back.
It's clever and the cards are especially funny the first three or four times you play it, but after that, I really prefer games like The Resistance, or Ticket to Ride, or even Pandemic (which is cooperative play, and very rarely results in any one person getting pissed off or feeling like a loser).
Pinochle (Score:2)
It's the one group game I get to play semi-regularly - my wife and I have been playing it with the same friends ever since we got out of college, back in the 80s.
When I was still in college, Cribbage, Hearts, and Spades were all very popular in the dorms.
I've always wanted to learn Bridge, but since I'm the only one in my circle with any interest - it's never happened.
What a crappy of options! - no Pinochle? (Score:2)
Pinochle wipes the floor with the rest of these. There is chance involved (based on the deal), wagering, trump cards, having a partner whose cards you are not fully acquainted with, and various styles of play that have all sorts of good and bad consequences based on all of the above, as well as the opponents style.
Re: What a crappy of options! - no Pinochle? (Score:2)
So a poor man's Bridge, then?
Obvious missing option (Score:5, Funny)
Duh!
Pencil and Paper Games? (Score:3)
This is slashdot why is there no AD&D option? No Gurps? and worst of all no cowboyneal?
Re:Pencil and Paper Games? (Score:2)
CowboyNeal is my stable hand in World of Warcraft.
*This is an outright lie. I don't even play WoW.
Re:Pencil and Paper Games? (Score:3)
" No Gurps"
I agree, Get rid of GURPS.
Chess... (Score:2)
Re:Chess... (Score:2)
You don't know the rules for Checkers?
Re:rules for Checkers (Score:2)
Bridge has two essential features (Score:2, Funny)
Chance and partnership - when you lose, you can blame the cards or your partner.
Re:Bridge has two essential features (Score:2)
Re: Bridge has two essential features (Score:2)
I believe the term you're looking for is 'centre hand opponent'...
Traditional missing option (Score:2)
Re:Traditional missing option (Score:2)
That's one I used to play when I was a kid. We played games every Sunday, before the Disney movie of the week started at 8:00. We would play board games like Monopoly, Life, Careers, and so on, or play card games like pinochle, canasta, and poker. Not all on the same night, of course.
With poker, we played many different types, including 5 card draw, 5 and 7 card stud, something dad called baseball, Oh Hell, and a few others. The dealer called which game we played, and the deal passed to the left after each game. We never played the same the same type twice in a row, and it was fun. Then at 8:00, the Disney movie started, and the game was put away.
The glass bead game (Score:3)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Calvinball (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Calvinball (Score:2)
Unsurprisingly, someone actually did make a serious attempt to compile those rules [bartel.org] into a coherent form online. Kinda misses the point, IMO, but there you go.
Poker, with caveat (Score:2)
I voted for poker, but only if it's casual. I'm no world class card player. But from that list, it's what I could spend an afternoon doing with a group of friends. Second would have been Checkers, but that is slightly limited.
Fizzbin! (Score:3)
Euchre (Score:3)
Bridge (Score:3)
There is also a very nice web-based community (so you can play it even without friends and without leaving your mom's basement); most active players play online on bridgebase.com, including the pros -- on that website you can easily find world champions playing a hand or two just to chill out. It's free (as in beer), unlike the face-to-face tournament which are sorta expensive.
Re:Bridge (Score:4, Funny)
"There is also a very nice web-based community"
and if you want to keep it that way, you'll stop promoting it!
Kaiser! (Score:2)
Global thermonuclear war? (Score:2)
Come one, how can you not have that as a choice? It has all the movie and nerd cultural references you could ask for.
Euchre (Score:3)
Re:Euchre (Score:2)
Dragon Poker (Score:2)
straight to Falken's Maze (Score:3)
Anyone who voted anything else=fail. Please turn in your Nerd Pass immediately.
Hearts & Cribbage & Go (Score:2)
I can't believe that Cribbage isn't on the list. Then again, maybe it doesn't meet the Slashdot demographic. My parents, who are in the 70s+ now, and their friends all play Crib. Maybe it just isn't as popular in the US as it is in Canada.
I've always been interested in learning how to play Go, ever since I read about the game in an old DIY woodworking book. My plan was to build a Go board and then learn the game. It's one of those projects on my To-Do list...
Personally, I like Hearts. I find it has the right mix of strategy and luck.
Poker, which I also like but not as much, has much more to do with luck. Some believe that there is an art to bluffing and tells, but modern day poker has more to do with the percentages than anything else. Hollywood, as usual, has glorified poker way beyond what it actually is...
so many card games, and you missed one. (Score:2)
whist! But I rather play a board game. power grid, agricola, pandemic, 7 wonders ...
We're not supposed to complain about lack of choic (Score:2)
But in a poll like this there really, really needs to be an "Other." I'm a Scrabble man.
Fizbin ... (Score:2)
Re:Fizbin ... (Score:2)
Bam! Well done sir.
With who? (Score:2)
I choose Chess because of the ones listed, it's the on I enjoy most with my kids, but if I was playing a game against Magnus Carlsen, then Chess would just be a waste of both our time. Granted, a brief waste.
Solitaire (Score:3)
I stopped playing it, the cards kept flying off the car's dashboard as soon as you get the windows down on the highway
Re:Poker ++ (Score:3)
In a casino, the house still gets a cut of poker games. You might be playing against humans, but the house is still milking $120/hr off your average $1/$2 NLHE table either in rake or time payments.
I, for example, have a craps table -- not a fancy one, but a table nonetheless. On casino night, I'll let whomever wants to handle the swings of the table be the house, or I'll do it if nobody wants the job but people still want to play. For me, playing is enjoyable enough to pay the edge to the player operating as the house.
Running a good quality unraked poker game for any length of time is a labor of love.
Grammar Narcissism (Score:3, Informative)
I'll let whomever wants to handle the swings of the table be the house
Whoever, for goodness sake! They are doing the wanting (ie whoever is the subject and thus stands in the nominative case), nor does the 'to' in the infinitive act as a preposition (in which case it would be dative and 'whom' would be most correct, though it is used in the accusative also).
"Whomever I permit to be the house" is OK, but "whoever I permit to be the house" is probably better: you are doing the permitting, and even though they are the recipients of the permission they actually stand in the accusative relative to the verb, 'permission' not being an actual indirect object here. This is the case when 'whom' is semi-right.
"Whomever it falls to to be the house": the first 'to' is the giveaway, it's dative, only 'whom' is correct old-school wise.
"Whoever wants to be the house:" 'Whom' here would be hypercorrection. It's always wrong, and sounds pretentious and uneducated all at the same time.
If you cannot grok this, simply avoid any use of 'whom' (whomever, whomsoever etc.), this vestigial (from the time English did have a case system half a millennium ago or more) form is falling out of usage anyway. In modern usage 'who' or 'whoever' are always correct.
Pet hate out of the way ... now to the content ...
In a casino, the house still gets a cut of poker games.
The rake is like a tax, you can live with it. Much like you broker's spread. OP's point is that any game in which the Casino is your counter-party is fixed against you. Having other players as your counter-parties and paying the Casino for the effort in hosting the game via a rake is more conducive to winning.
Running a good quality unraked poker game for any length of time is a labor of love.
You are not wrong there buddy!
Re:Grammar Narcissism (Score:2)
Re:euchre (Score:2)
I haven't played that game in 20 years. No one I've met outside of Michigan knew it.
But back in high school, spending a Friday night playing euchre, eating pizza, and slowly getting drunk (not necessarily in that order) was great fun.
Re:euchre (Score:2)
Re:What about ... (Score:2)
That was my answer.
Re:Where are all the nerds? (Score:3)
Re:Where are all the nerds? (Score:2)
Ticket to Ride, Carcassonne, Settlers of Catan or Werewolf are now mainstream
but there are still people playing and buying monopoly ... *shudder*
Re:No Games I want to play. (Score:2)
Yeah. Of the list, I picked Blackjack, but I'd prefer backgammon.