Re: Daylight Saving Time, I would most like
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Complete overhaul please (Score:5, Insightful)
I would like to see the complete overhaul of the time system:
1. eliminate Daylight Savings Time
2. replace all time zones with UTC so that the current time is expressed exactly the same regardless of geographic location, therefore no further need for the International Date Line (take that you smug Kiwis and Aussies!)
3. there is no step three
4. put NTP daemons & receivers on all digital electronic consumer products that are required to display the current time
5. eliminate the concepts of AM and PM (mandatory 24-hour clock)
6. profit!
Re:Complete overhaul please (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Remove it (Score:3, Insightful)
A better solution would be to shorten the workday. Nobody should have to work more than 6 hours anyway. Daylight 'savings' is pretty dumb. It's especially stupid in the lower latitudes. Here's looking at you, Mexico.
Re:It's really dumb once you understand the purpos (Score:0, Insightful)
That is completely backwards. The point is to make it light out earlier in the morning, at the expense of the light in the evening. It's under standard time that it's light out later.
Nice graphical argument for DST (Score:5, Insightful)
Noon (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Complete overhaul please (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm with you on most points...
4. put NTP daemons & receivers on all digital electronic consumer products that are required to display the current time
That's just silly. In most of the continental US, such gadgets can already sync to WWVB to get the current UTC time (and to find out whether DST is in effect now, and whether it will be in effect 24 hours from now)*, and for most such gadgets, this simple unidirectional broadcast mechanism makes a lot more sense than NTP, which requires (1) unicast and (2) bi-directional.
The correct answer is to extend such a system world-wide with a few more transmitters, not to make every device everywhere speak IP and NTP.
*Yet, despite the bits in the time signal for exactly that purpose, I am in possession of an alarm clock that sets itself by WWVB, but has been wrong for the past two weeks, because some idiot-child programmer used a hard-coded table of start/stop dates instead of reading the current status from the signal (and using hard-coded dates as a fallback if unable to receive a WWVB frame in the 24 hours preceeding the change). This clock was sold after the most recent change in DST dates, and thus came with an extra paper in the box which explained the behavior, implied that it was Congress's fault rather than the manufacturer's, and recommending that you simply adjust the clock twice in the spring and twice in the fall. If they can't (or can't be bothered to) get this right, do you trust them with NTP?!
Pros and Cons (Score:4, Insightful)
Seems like the only reason DST is there is so the politicians can go,"Hah, look at a hoop we can make you jump through."
Re:End it or make it year-round (Score:5, Insightful)
To accommodate them, I would consider keeping DST for the entire year.
I'd go for this - or even what the Car Talk guys referred to as "double dog daylight savings" where it's a two hour jump (but year-round, I mean).
As it is, during the winter there is a period where I leave for work while it's dark and return home afterward in the dark. To have at least a little daylight left at the end of my workday would be nice.
Asinine (Score:5, Insightful)
AZ (Score:5, Insightful)
Arizona may be backwards about the vast majority of things, but at least they have this right - daylight savings time doesn't exist!
This (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's keep DST and dump standard time. Sucks coming home from work at sunset. Can't get outside and exercise any during the week because of work. Ugh.
Re:It's really dumb once you understand the purpos (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This (Score:5, Insightful)
You require light in order to exercise? Interesting. I'd rather see DST completely abolished.
Re:This (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:This (Score:5, Insightful)
We should just abolish time zones altogether. There is no good reason anymore not to just use UTC "universally".
Point is, time zones or no time zones will not change that sometimes when you're in the middle of the day at your place, somewhere else people are already asleep, but at least with time zones it's obvious that when someone says "it's 8am here right now", it is about breakfast time there and not in the middle of the day or the middle of the night. So time zones give you additional information which you would not have with only one universal time for the whole planet.
In fact, only using UTC would just lead to "unofficial time zone tables" which you'd use to look up at what UTC time that guy on the other side of the world starts work: "oh, Bob starts work at 1pm UTC, so I still have to wait 3 hours before I can phone him". So it would be exactly the same as it is right now ("oh, Bob's place is x hours behind us"), just that you'd have to keep track of the time difference in some other way, because the UTC time would not give you that information.
Re:It's really dumb once you understand the purpos (Score:5, Insightful)
Completely wrong. There's a very excellent reason to use noon. From noon to noon is always 24 hours, no matter what time of year it is. From dawn to dawn is *not* always 24 hours. From sunset to sunset is *not* always 24 hours. It varies throughout the year. This makes anything other than noon completely unsuitable as a set-point.