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first vote (Score:2, Funny)
I looked at the results and said "holy shit...EVERYONE voted 10-20 years ago?"...then I realized it was just me.
Re:first vote (Score:5, Funny)
I looked at the results and said "holy shit...EVERYONE voted 10-20 years ago?"...then I realized it was just me.
I don't know about you, but I voted just a minute ago. Indeed, I'm surprised that you could vote on this poll 10-20 years ago. I thought it only appeared today.
Re:first vote (Score:5, Funny)
I don't know about you, but I voted just a minute ago. Indeed, I'm surprised that you could vote on this poll 10-20 years ago. I thought it only appeared today.
That's because you're on dial-up...
Re:first vote (Score:5, Funny)
pedantic fuck
An act only possible between a grammar nazi and a references nazi. It's characterized chiefly by exclamations of "This is a potentially enjoyable experience, Kinsey (1953)!!!" "One exclamation point is always sufficient!" "That is factually inaccurate, Master's and Johnson's (1966)."
It manages to fulfill all technical requirements of the act, while entirely missing the point and ultimately leaving both parties disappointed both with the experience, and the audience they thought they had, who gave up during the thesis stateme...I meant foreplay.
Re:first vote (Score:3)
pedantic fuck
An act only possible between a grammar nazi and a references nazi.
not only do they espouse the grim philosophy of linguistic national socialism, on top of it all, they're pedantophiles
Re:first vote (Score:4, Insightful)
those subhumans.
Oh irony, thou cruel mistress.
Missing Option. (Score:5, Interesting)
I normally don't complain about missing options, but we missed a big one.
I have never used a dial-up modem.
I wouldn't vote for it, but Being 10-20 years is popular. I could see some kids in their pre-20's who wouldn't ever use a Dialup.
A 20 year old today, would be born in 1993, wouldn't be interesting or ever connect to the internet until they are 5 (1998) by then their parents were a bit ahead of the curve and got one of the early cable modem internet.
Re:Missing Option. (Score:5, Funny)
My son (age 9) wrote a story about machines that talked with each other via sound that was too rapid for humans to understand.
He'd never heard of a modem before. So I explained it to him and found a youtube clip of one connecting. He was amazed.
Re:Missing Option. (Score:5, Funny)
My son (age 9) wrote a story about machines that talked with each other via sound that was too rapid for humans to understand. He'd never heard of a modem before. So I explained it to him and found a youtube clip of one connecting. He was amazed.
so he changed his story to machines that communicated via sound too aggravating to stand
Re:Missing Option. (Score:5, Insightful)
Why wouldn't "Right this minute!" be your choice?
Re:Missing Option. (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm 45 and the first internet access was with a dial-up acoustic coupler with 300 baud (if you don't know what it is, please google or check WikiPedia...)
Man, I could hear the bytes crawling.
As background: I actually hacked into a PDP11 of the Technical University in Berlin and into a BS2000-machine at the Free University in Berlin. From there, I could jump from machine to machine and at one point ended up in Australia. Funny thing is, I still can remember the name of one of the key machines (WRB03) in Germany that we used to jump international... *sigh* good ol' times...
Disclaimer: we were just a bunch of kids playing around and chatting with people around the world - no, we didn't destroy or crack or manipulate anything. We just wanted to talk to people outside of Berlin (West) (this was around 1983/84)
Re:Missing Option. (Score:4)
Speaking of hearing the bytes crawl.... my first dial-up modem was also 300 baud. But being a ham radio operator, I've also operated radio teletype. Back when I was doing that, most RTTY was 45 baud, because HF fading and static tears up AFSK signals pretty badly. Anway, you *can* actually copy RTTY by ear -- commonly used sequences are easy to identify by ear. Such as "RYRYRYRY" which generates an alternating 1/0's pattern in 5-bit Murry code and is used as a tuning tone, and "CQ CQ CQ" which is the general solicitation for a random contact.
BTW -- before the wall fell I talked to East German hams on occasion. Not about anything of substance of course, they had to be very careful.
Re:first vote (Score:2)
Its a flawed poll. Its not setup to discern the amount of first modem users, because the question is when everyone moved off modems. So there's no need for the >20 years users; remove it. "Right this minute" can be merged with dropped carrier. Then they can set better start dates for when broadband rolled out, or change 10-20 years to "more than 10 years".
Re:first vote (Score:2)
"because the question is when everyone moved off modems."
No it isn't. ItT's the last time you used one. For example I sue one to dial into some commercial industrial systems.
" So there's no need for the >20 years users; remove it. "
so no one could have stopped using a modem prior to 1993?
" "Right this minute" can be merged with dropped carrier."
nope. I could have logged off 45 seconds ago and be right this minute.
" Then they can set better start dates for when broadband rolled out, "
your assumption is that someone who took a computer class in '81 would have contiguously used their computer. That is a false assumption.
Re:first vote (Score:3)
" So there's no need for the >20 years users; remove it. "
so no one could have stopped using a modem prior to 1993?
They could have, but given the granularity, >10 would be the essentially same as 10-20 and >20. The "interesting" polls, answer-wise, are always the ones with better distributions. 1 yr, 5 yr, 10yr, 15yr, 20yr, 20+ yr would have likely had a better (more even) distribution. Though the answers are still interesting. At this moment, over half are 10-20. So that's where a new option would have given the best visibility.
4 years ago (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:4 years ago (Score:4, Informative)
As the average speed goes up, us crazy developers find new ways to fill up your pipe.
1980s 300bps was expected. So Command Line Systems were popular, it just needs to work as fast as you can type, read.
Early 1990s 1200bps was expected. Fast enough to replace Command Line with menus and Color ANSI text (when it went up to 2400bps)
Late 1990's 14.4k was common. We could now use graphics, and download small images.
Early 2000's 56.6k was common. larger Graphics, and Sound. We used more graphical elements.
Mid 2000's 1mbs was common, Sound, and video was being added.
Late 2000's 5mbs was common, Larger - Full screen video and multi-channel audio.
Early 2010's 10mbs is common, We expect multible systems using the Full-Screen video, as well as sharing large files back and forth.
If we took our 10mbs connection today, and only Telneted into a Command Line pomp, it would run very fast, faster then you will need it to be. However if you tried to say watch netflix on your 300bps modem (assuming it worked) you will be better off walking to your nearest red-box and getting a CD.
2400 (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:2400 (Score:2)
Oh, Captain Janeway. Lace: The Final Brassiere.
Re:2400 (Score:2)
I recall downloading multiple uuencoded files from USENET News and reassembling them to get a playing card size gif. Plenty of time to pop open a fresh beer. So often disappointed, but every now and them ...
Re:4 years ago (Score:5, Insightful)
if you tried to say watch netflix on your 300bps modem (assuming it worked) you will be better off walking to your nearest red-box and getting a CD.
I think you might still beat 300 bps if you walked to your furthest red-box.
Hmm, let's see. Assuming we're talking continental United States, furthest average walk would be maybe 2000 miles (since coastal population is higher than central). Average person walks 2 MPH, so 1000 hours each way, call it 1500 hours with sleep, or 3000 hours round trip. DVD contains 2 GB of video. 2 GB / 300 bps = 16 billion / 300 per second = 53 megaseconds = 14,814 hours. Yup, better off walking -- even coast to coast and back, with a solid 8 hours of sleep each night. :)
300-1200 transition was early-mid-1980s (Score:3)
At least for CRT terminals and Unix-capable computers (PDP-11s, Vaxen, and most of the Motorola-based machines), 1200 baud took over from 300 baud pretty quickly. We still had 300 baud paper terminals like the TI Silent 700, and people with Commodore 64s or TRS-80s might be using 300 baud, but otherwise 300 was mostly gone by the mid-80s. I last used a Silent 700 around 1991, dug out from the storage closet at the lab because I was working on a project with a company that wouldn't let us connect to the outside world from their LAN, but their security people were ok with a Silent 700 on their phone network, figuring it couldn't compromise anything. It was an old and clunky way to read mail, but it sort of worked.
There were exceptions - the Visa credit-card protocols ran at 300 baud, because it was much faster to sync up at 300 (3-4 seconds) and send less than 100 characters of data than to spend 45-60 seconds syncing up 1200/9600/14400 and send anything.
Re:4 years ago (Score:2)
dial-up modem || dial-up connection (Score:3)
Hmm - last time I used a dial-up _modem_ was around 1999... ...after that I used two dial-up modems in leased-line mode on an analog leased line... (yes, the standard AT command set does have an option to assume leased-line mode and just try and connect instead of dialling)
Last time I used a dial-up _connection_ was late 1996...
Anyhow - both neatly fall into the 10-20 year category - so, not a biggie in terms of which choice to go for... ;-)
Plan B dial-up connection (Score:3)
I remember having an internet outage a few years back, and digging up an old dial-up modem out of a drawer and using it... can't remember how many years ago that was, though. 2005? 2007? somewhere thereabouts.
Bet I still have that modem. Wonder if I could dig up the dial-up numbers without having to look them up on the web (which would rather defeat the point...)
Re:Plan B dial-up connection (Score:2)
Internet outage is seldom solved by dial-up modems these days, because most people connect with cable or fios, and those companies don't even support dial-up. So when you most need it, you have to run out and sign up someplace.
I haven't had a dialup capable ISP for 10 years.
Tethering to your cell phone, on the other hand is the new backup when your internet connection goes down. The carriers make it ridiculously expensive, but if you buy your smartphone unlocked and not from your carrier they can't even tell you are doing it. (They could if they were competent, but not without deep packet inspection).
Re:dial-up modem || dial-up connection (Score:5, Interesting)
Ah yeah, leased lines. Reminds me of a cool bit of forgotten disruptive tech that I once used at work.
You used to be be able to order something called an "alarm circut" or "dry pair" from a phone company. (Maybe you still can?) It's a pair of copper wires electrically connected from one place to another, through a local phone network. It's basically a phone line with no service on it. No voltage, no dialtone, no phone number. It was used for linking alarm and emergency systems together. Low data rate stuff because the line quality was literally the same as your average phone network. I think the range was limited too, with endpoints prety much limited to within the same exchange.
With the advent of DSL you were suddenly able to put much higher data rates over plain phone copper. Phone companies pretty much had monopoly over this due to owning the phone networks (And later bribery of elected officials).. Until a small company figured out you could push the same signals over one of these dry pair circuits. You could buy these boxes that would let you do 1.5 megabits, the same speed of a T1, and would hook up to your router via a high speed serial interface just like your T1 TSU.
Naturally the phone companies would have none of this seeing as a dry pair cost about 10 bucks a month and a point to point T1 was closer to 1000. Pretty soon the started clamping attenuators on the dry pairs, limiting communications impossible for anything faster than a 9600bps modem, which is the most alarm systems ever used.
Mother-In-Law (Score:4, Interesting)
Multiple modems to boost speed (Score:3)
At university, we used to use two modems on two phone lines to double our connection speed on a single computer.
Dial-up EFB (Score:4, Interesting)
The Australian Bureau of Meteorology still uses a dial-up modem for its Electronic Field Book (EFB) to supply the daily observations. I think it uses something like Kermit or XMODEM to transfer a series of data files containing observation results generated by a program running in DOS on a laptop. Its antiquated, but it works. I've asked some of their software guys if they would consider a web-based submission tool, but there isn't a perceived need nor resources to implement it. We use it twice a day at the marine rescue base I volunteer at.
Re:Dial-up EFB (Score:2)
This sounds strange, but for a security sensitive site, a dialup modem, POTS line, and pulling files via zmodem or a version of kermit that supports sliding windows can be useful. It makes the site immune to large sweeps for vulnerabilities on the Internet, and these days, wardialing isn't on a threat meter. Plus, just the time it takes to dial and create a handshake limits the amount of times something can be guessed, assuming the remote site drops carrier after 2-3 misdialed passwords.
Of course, this is security through obscurity in some ways, but it will narrow down the amount of attacks made very greatly.
For some uses (grabbing realtime data that isn't that big), POTS is still useful.
Re:Dial-up EFB (Score:2)
Our irrigation control system at the nursery uses a web interface accessed via dial-in/POTS. I've considered moving it to a WiFi connection due to how terrible the twisted pair is that runs out to the small shed, but it's never really been an issue. Dial in, set your zones, disconnect. Of course, connecting this thing to the internet is just asking for trouble.
not that long ago (Score:2)
Early cable (Score:5, Interesting)
When I first "signed on" around 1995 dialup prices were around $30-40/month for a 28.8 connection. Within a few years there were so many competiting dialup providers that you could get a 56K connection for $5/month and it came with a personal website, several emails, usenet access, etc... You could literally find a hundred competiting ISPs in the yellow pages in the Toronto area.
I was one of the first to get cable internet in my area. I can't remember the price, but it was fairly decent, and the service quality was amazing. I remember being blown away by the speeds. I'd usually get 600KBytes/sec down from sites like sunsite.unc.edu. A few years later my isp (Shaw) and another isp (Rogers) decided to swap customers for some odd reason (without any say from the customers of course). So I ended up getting stuck with Rogers, and service quality quickly degraded over the next several years. The dialup ISPs slowly died off and competition died with it.
Fast forward 10-15 years and I'm still with Rogers. The service quality is much better than it was 5 years ago, mostly due to the CTRC finally getting off their asses and slapping Rogers over their throttling practices. The speeds are good, I get 6.5MB/sec on average and I almost never have any service outages (maybe once or twice a year for a few hours). The price and caps are unacceptable though. I pay $80/month for 50Mbit down with a 150GB monthly cap. What I wouldn't do for a little competition again. I had it with dialup, why can't I have it with cable? I should still have access to dozens of competiting providers like I did ~20 years ago. /rant
Re:Early cable (Score:2)
I kind of wish they would bring back the "dial-up" concept. Something like you pay $20/month for an ADSL WAN connection that will only route to other connections in the local calling area. You then have to go out and purchase Internet/TV/VOIP from a company or companies on top of that.
The better option would be if municipalities were to create open access networks (dark fiber to the home to whoever wants it). But seeing as how that's unlikely to happen in most places a government regulated high-speed "dial-up" connection might be an acceptable alternative.
Re:Early cable (Score:3)
When I started (around '93) AOL's monthly rate was $9.99 for 10 hours, plus the phone company charged $0.20/minute during the day & workweek & $0.11/minute after 7pm and on weekends. I know my father had GEnie on his Apple IIc+ before that, but I have no idea what that cost, and the service was so confusing & crappy that I didn't bother using it much.
Not Me Personally . . . (Score:2)
Out of Band Modems for router monitoring (Score:3)
I do managed security services, and we use modems to manage routers, firewalls, intrusion detection, and similar devices. It's not the primary management mechanism, but you need to be able to talk to the console when the Internet connection's not working, or when your box wasn't staged correctly so it doesn't have the right IP address, or when the box has gotten too hosed to do anything other than power-cycle it. At more permanent locations we'll install networks of terminal servers so we can get serial connections to the console ports without dealing with POTS lines, but usually at customer sites it's dial. And getting customers to connect the "line" side of a modem to the wall and the "phone" side to the router's console port has gotten a lot tougher the last few years.
I doubt it's still done this way, but for a long time the 4ESS phone switches had 56 kbps X.25 satellite connections as backup management. 56k was still tolerably fast, X.25 wasn't obsolete yet, and satellite was a way to get a connection when backhoes or floods had taken out land-based connections.
Dial Up (Score:2)
Well, we have a bank at work to accept telephone number data from the smaller phone companies and have to test them occasionally but it's been a while since there's been a problem.
The last time I personally had a modem for access to sites like BBS's was in the late 80's. For a while, Comcast had a dial-up upload, cable download cable modem which was mid 90's but I didn't actually have to input a number to call (well, I don't remember having to do that anyway).
[John]
Early adopter (Score:2)
But I was in college! I used a 14400 dialup shell to the university, where I used SLIRP to emulate a slip connection on the Solaris box, and suffered through that fun.
Ah, the nineties...
Post options translated (Score:5, Insightful)
Right this very minute: I live in a rural location, and I'm at home.
Within the past month: I live in a rural location, but I'm posting this from work.
Within the past year: My parents live in a rural location, and I wanted to check my email while I was visiting them.
1 to 5 years ago: There was that one time my cable modem went down, and I had to use the free dial-up that came with my account to get on the internet and look up the phone number for my service provider.
5 to 10 years ago: I moved into a city and never looked back.
10 to 20 years ago: I moved into a city a while ago.
More than 20 years ago: Does anyone else remember those AOL CD's?
I'd say it was abouY!@#*ZNO CARRIER: Shit. I guess I just hit my bandwidth cap, and now Comcast is injecting RST's into my stream.
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
Ish. Voted 5-10, but not for the reason you gave.
At home, I haven't had dialup even since I got my own place, which was not recently. My last job however involved retrieving data from some POS (either of the two most common uses of that acronym apply) systems. Some of those systems were in areas that didn't have anything other than dialup. Some of the store owners didn't see the point in paying for anything other than dialup. And some of the systems were so damn old they only supported dialup.
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
Many prividers:
http://www.hughesnet.com/ [hughesnet.com]
http://www.exede.com/ [exede.com]
http://www.wildblue.com/ [wildblue.com]
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
Satellite brings broadband everywhere.
I barely consider satellite to be broadband. It's ping times are so ridiculously horrid. Have you ever tried an SSH session through satellite? It's literally less painful through dialup.
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
It's literally less painful through dialup.
ugh... s/less/more
Only if s/through/than
Re:Post options translated (Score:2)
My girlfriend and I visted her folks up in the mountains last weekend. I nabbed the password for the WiFi there and was going to do a little work (SSH).
Their internet is some kind of LOS wireless thing that connects to a tower up on the mountain. My sessions would terminate every 3-5 minutes. Absolutely useless...
No wonder old people tend to not bother with "new technology". They get sold old technology at new technology prices and it performs as expected (not very well).
What counts as "using" (Score:2)
For example does paying by credit card and seeing the message "connecting via dial" on the chip and pin terminal count?
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Yeah, they're really not clear. I used a modem to prop open a door a few months ago - does that count?
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
My credit union offers free coin counting and you don't have to be a member. Or you could just carry a few coins and use them to fend off new coins as much as possible. Any that make it through your defenses are added to your arsenal making you more coin resistant to your next cash transaction. You can guess my favorite method.
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Don't they just weigh it? You have to sort it into bags of the same type of coin, and perhaps a fixed amount, but that should be pretty easy in the USA -- you only use three types of coin!
(It's 10 years since I did this, when I was "treasurer" for the toy company we set up at school.)
Re:What counts as "using" (Score:2)
Dial-up for general Internet access though? That'd be somewhere around twelve years ago.
Can I piggyback that over VOIP? (Score:5, Interesting)
We used to connect to the internet over our phone lines.
Now, we connect our phones over the internet.
Re:Can I piggyback that over VOIP? (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes. As someone that works in telephony industry the amazing thing to me is how many modems are still in use. And the fun of making sure that modems, faxes and the like continue to work even when the device plugged into a VoIP line ( SIP, H.248, or MGCP ) and/or going over IP trunking. There are actually protocols designed to recognize fax data and process it differently so that it still works, see T.38.
Re:Can I piggyback that over VOIP? (Score:5, Funny)
.. for sending fax from the computer (Score:2)
Re:.. for sending fax from the computer (Score:3)
Home or work (Score:2)
I haven't used one at home since the 90s. Back then, the first broadband connection I had was downstream only, you still had to use a modem for upstream.
remember laptop modems? (Score:2)
Re:remember laptop modems? (Score:2)
I found several of those when I helped my mum clean out some old cupboards. Laptops sold in Europe tended to come with all the adapters (and manuals) for every country, it's probably easier than having 10+ versions of the boxed computer. Especially if the same little bag is sold in the US as an international kit.
But, I never used them. Did you dial-up internationally -- was the signal quality sufficient? Or did you find a local ISP?
(EU rules on roaming mean my modern equivalent -- I have SIMs for four foreign countries -- shouldn't be necessary for much longer.)
When my cable modem went down! (Score:4, Informative)
It was down for many hours due a wide spread outage. I had to use dial-up to contact support since I cannot use the phone due to my disabilities. :(
ADSL since 2002 (Score:2)
At home I've had ADSL since 2002. My first modem (circa 1985) was a "high speed" 1200 baud unit. My last modem was the ubiquitous 33k6/56k.
At work we have many legacy systems that we still access with modems.
...laura
Define "used" (Score:2)
I haven't, however, used a dialup connection to the internet in over a decade.
So which do I answer?
Re:Define "used" (Score:3)
Polling sensor data via modem is cool, I've had to do that myself. If I have to drive hours to fix something I'd pick a modem over anything else I've used for low bandwidth applications.
All the time (though not for personal use) (Score:2)
One of my customers uses good old PSTN (or circuit-switched GSM data) to contact their automation devices around the world. They dial in once a day and report status (or in emergencies), and software updates and such are pushed by dialing out towards them. And yes, that platform is *still* being actively developed...(The installed base is huge).
The last millennium (Score:2)
As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:3)
Re:As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:2)
I've seen some exceptions to this. Windows 95 had something that bolted onto the usual fax protocol that allowd for public key encryption of faxes, as well as sending files. Too bad, the other site had to be Windows 95 or NT, or else this couldn't be done.
With this in mind, last time I've used a fax... well, this morning. Sending a faxed signature can be quicker than printing out a PDF, signing it, scanning it, converting the scan to PDF, then sending the PDF out via the E-mail program of choice.
Re:As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:2)
Re:As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:2)
The ironic thing is oftentimes, a fax server just is a service that takes the incoming stuff and makes a PDF from it, so the perceived "security" may be bogus.
What I'm curious about is (in general) what is better as evidence in court, a PDF that is signed by a timestamping CA, or a piece of paper. It is a lot easier to store a bunch of PDFs than it is to file away a bunch of dead trees for seven years (50+ if one is doing with anything aviation related.)
Re:As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:2)
By the way, this is actually a great use case for tablets (the kind that support active-digitizer styluses, not those crappy capacitive styluses). Somebody sends me a PDF or Word document to sign? Use the tablet to load the document, sign it, save the signed file, and send it back to them. Works either for built-in digitizers (clamshell/convertible tablets, things like the Surface Pro, etc.) or detached ones (you can get a cheap external drawing tablet for like $40).
I don't care what they do with the file they get back - they can print it out if they want to - but at my end it's all done on the computer and I *like* it that way.
Re:As long as you don't count fax machines... (Score:2)
Oh well, I'll try again next time.
Remote access to WAN Routers (Score:2)
I think the last time I used a modem was about 3 years ago. Our legacy WAN provider used modems to provide managed services and troubleshooting.
My first modem was a 1200 baud external modem, borrowed from a guy my Dad knew, hooked up at a XT system. I ordered a 2400 baud internal modem shortly after. Over the years I upgraded to a 19K, and finally 33.6K. It was shortly after the 33.6K modems came out (1996) that my area was chosen as a trial for Vibe, a fiber optic internet service offered by NBTel (fiber to the pole, coax into the house). It was 1 Mbps up and down. I rarely used a modem after that, eventually switching to cable internet when I moved to the US.
Had to live on it for a while recently (Score:4, Interesting)
A few things made it a lot more bearable. I kind of use the internet socially these days, so the fact that IRC wasn't affected was really great. However, browsing the web these days on dial-up is almost unbearable. Fifteen years ago, websites were designed for low bandwidth, so there weren't a lot of image-heavy and JavaScript-heavy websites. That is definitely not the case anymore and even sites like Wikipedia take a while to load; Facebook is out of the question, it just fails after a certain point. To remedy this, I used Opera, which has (had? I heard they changed their layout engine recently, not sure if it still exists) an option to only load cached images and lets you load unloaded images from a context menu entry (which, obviously, caches them), allowing you to load important images or images that are necessary for getting things to function correctly. This made things a lot more bearable; I could even get on Facebook (though it still took like five minutes and it looked really awful).
The other big thing was the wide availability of free WiFi cafes and such. I could go to McDonalds, download a single player game on my backlog or a movie or something, and bring it back home. No one ever said I had to strictly use dial-up. It was kind of a pain bringing my (crappy) laptop to McDonalds, downloading a game, bringing it back, and then transferring it to my desktop so I could actually play it, but c'est la vie, it wasn't that big of a deal. Still more convenient than just sitting in one of those places all day, which I've seen people do.
I'd say in the past three years, I've probably spent at least one non-continuous year on a dial-up connection. It's really not so bad, but I sure as heck won't go back to it unless I have to. Hope this helps anyone who may end up in (or is currently in) a similar situation.
Qualifiers abound... (Score:2)
I can see by some of the other comments that I'm not the only one who has a qualifier, here. I actually switched over from dial-up to DSL back in 2000 -- but the last time I actually used a modem in any capacity was probably 2006 as a vote auto-dialer, before my wife finally lost interest in American Idol altogether. (Thanks for that goes to Taylor Hicks, for sucking so spectacularly and yet winning anyway. In retrospect, I have to confess that I have somewhat mixed feelings on his winning... at least I don't have to watch the show anymore.)
Faxing (Score:2)
If the poll reminded people that a fax machine has a modem built in then we'd be getting much different results.
Just under ten years ago (Score:2)
It was sometime in late 2003 (December-ish) I last used a dial-up modem.
I initially ditched dial-up for ADSL in early 2001 (512k/384k), but in fall 2003 a faster ADSL option (8M/1M) was offered in my area and I signed up for it. And I also cancelled the old service at the same time. (During this time there wasn't a smooth way to switch DSL providers in Sweden. It was shortly thereafter that they worked out a consumer-friendly way of doing it). But there were significant delays in getting the new DSL service as it was pretty popular.
So I had to go back to dial-up for almost three months. I found a provider that offered a semi-flatrate (X minutes for Y money, thereafter Z money per minute [I don't remember the exact rates]). It got kind of expensive for my student budget. A $100-150+ USD equivalent extra cost per month was not insignificant. But in the end I got my faster ADSL connection and I was happy.
Just over a year ago (Score:2)
It's the only way to get online at an uncle's house out in the country.
Depends on what you mean by use (Score:2)
My first modems were back in the 1970s, when 300 baud was fast and really expensive.
I've had them for occasional use up until around 2006, but I added DSL around 1996 and cable modem in 1999.
But I used to set up modems for various uses in business much later than that.
The new phone modem (Score:2)
Ghetto ATM (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure I have used a ghetto botega ATM that used a dial-up in the past 6 months.
Define "Use" (Score:3)
I "use" my dial-up modem as a backup if my main internet connection goes down. It is good enough to check my e-mail and pull up Slashdot just to make sure the world hasn't ended. Last time I needed it was a few years ago during an extended outage. The backup dial up service is provided by my ISP at no extra charge.
Kids these days have their cell phones as "backup", but to me that is just not versatile enough to be the same.
And a nice thing about modems is it is still possible to connect to a remote computer without an ISP in the middle (yea, phone company, but still..)
Since you got me thinking about it, just to test, I am actually posting this from my dial-up!! (And no "no carrier" message so far, lol)
Last time was an hour ago ... (Score:2)
For my own use, ten years ago (Score:2)
It's been ten years since I switched to cable. Not so for my in-laws, who finally switched to broadband this year (but their modem acct lapsed a couple years ago), and I'd been on their modem connection once or twice for some reason.
By Hastur's tailbone, how slow was my first 2400 bps modem. It took about an hour to download 2 megabytes, IIRC, but it could do for playing Doom with my cousins. The 14.4 that replaced it wasn't much better because of the crappy UART on my serial port - running it at full speed tended to give CRC errors.
2007 (Score:2)
Middle eastern Backup (Score:3)
Sure, you had to dial up a number in France, [favstar.fm] but it did demonstrate that there are still times when POTS rules.
ATMs still use modems (Score:5, Funny)
Intentionally? More than 10 years ago.
Unintentionally? 2 weeks ago at an ATM. You'd be surprised at how many ATMs still use modems. You wouldn't know it unless they leave the audio on during the connection sequence.
Out-of-band Management (Score:3)
I just dialed into a 56k USRobotics modem this morning at one of my remote sites. They are still prevalent for remote out-of-band management of network devices (i.e. switches, routers). They have saved my bacon numerous times over the years and I don't see them going away anytime soon in my line of work.
Re:Anyone remember voip (Score:4)
Heck I remember waiting an hour to download Commander Keen!
Re:Anyone remember voip (Score:2)
I knew some guy that tried to do VPN over dialup.The overhead of the encryption pretty much killed off whatever little bandwidth he had to begin with.
Re:Anyone remember voip (Score:2)
Re:Anyone remember... (Score:2)
...over dial-up? when it would take half an hour to download a tiny 20Mb file.
Anyone remember FTPmail [wikipedia.org] over UUCP [wikipedia.org]? At that time, it was the only reliable way to download some 100 KB to 1MB over a dialup hanging every 10-15 mins (not all ftp clients/servers did know about reget)
oh nostalgia.
Yeah... ftp://sunsite.unc.edu [unc.edu] and ftp://ftp.funet.fi [funet.fi]... full of goodies
Re:What's the hurry? (Score:2)
Re:What's the hurry? (Score:3)
I use the Internet for business, not entertainment.
Trolling again, are we AC?
What are you doing on Slashdot if you only use the internet for business? Also, how does ./ not crash your outdated version of javascript?
What about internal connections? (Score:2)
Briefly had a job at a joke of a company, altering the configuration of the PBX system meant logging into it through a terminal session established by dialing the damn thing up on a modem built into an ancient Powerbook.
Re:Still use it today (Score:2)
out of bandwidth access
Out-of-band?
Re:Lack of option (Score:3)
What do you mean "never"? How did you connect to the internet in the '80s and '90s if you didn't use dial-up?