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Mars Lander Snaps the Most Detailed Pics Yet
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kdawson
on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:53 PM
from the feeling-its-way dept.
from the feeling-its-way dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The Mars Lander has taken its very first microscopic image of a piece of Martian dust (image). The particle, according to the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, is shown at a higher magnification than anything ever seen from another planet. The piece of dust is a rounded particle about a millionth of a meter across. This particle is one of the countless specks of dust that continually swirl around the Red Planet, coloring the Martian sky pink. 'Taking the images required the highest resolution microscope operated off of Earth and a specially designed substrate to hold the Martian dust,' said Tom Pike, a Phoenix science team member. 'We always knew it was going to be technically very challenging to image particles this small.'"
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"Millionth of a meter" (Score:5, Funny)
It's called micrometer. I know, that sounds too sciency, sorry.
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I can just imagine a specification calling for a gap of 100 micrometers and a NASA contractor supplying 100 instruments...
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I know micron isn't an official SI unit, but it sure as heck is better than "millionth of a meter". Otherwise just use micrometer and let context dictate whether it is a measuring device or unit of measurement.
Like the cow?
(does anybody still remember The Far Side?)
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The Cow as a unit of measurement? What a load of bullocks!
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I think using it to mean a millionth of a meter would be confusing, regardless of it being technically correct.
How is it more confusing than using "meter" in both the "unit of measurement" and also the "device which measures something" sense?
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In the US at least, we use that term for a device that measures very small things [wikipedia.org], a micro [=very small] meter [=that which measures]. It's pronounced 'my kromiter', not 'micro meter'. I think using it to mean a millionth of a meter would be confusing, regardless of it being technically correct.
That said by someone who measures distance by the FOOT? [wikipedia.org]
(
As in: How many feet in a yard?
Depends upon what's on the grill!
)
Re:"Millionth of a meter" (Score:5, Funny)
It's called micrometer. I know, that sounds too sciency, sorry.
Meter sounds too European. A five thousand thousandth of a rod is colloquial enough for those imperialists to understand.
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I think it depends on the size of the rod, (Score:3, Funny)
although they keep saying it's not the size of the rod that matters, but how it's used.
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Meter is uniquely American. Everybody else spells it properly: metre.
No stupid, its 1.05702341(10^-22) light years (Score:5, Funny)
rounded particle about a millionth of a meter across
Get it right.
While we're at it, maybe someone would care to share arbitrary comparisons to help us visualize... like if we could line these particles up from the Earth to the Moon, it would take nearly 3.84403(10^14) of them! Or, if we encircled the Earth with these particles, it would take nearly 4.0008(10^13)! Amazing!!! It's all so clear now.
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No, it's called a millimetre. From the french millimètre.
Say what? The Milli- prefix indicates a power of 10^-3 [wikipedia.org]. What's requested is a power of 10^-6, thus, Micro-.
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No, that is a thousandth of a meter.
Mille, million, milliard
thousand, million, billion
I don't know why they use the same prefix for those three... makes no sense to me.
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No, it's called a millimetre. From the french millimètre.
Your French is great, compared to your physics skills.
wrong approach (Score:5, Funny)
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So you are saying astronauts should be interplanetary janitors and garbage men?
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Have you seen the ticket prices on a round-trip to Mars lately? No to mention if you don't upgrade to first class you get to spend the next 6 months with some guy drooling on you in his sleep from the seat next to you and some brat kicking the back of your chair the entire time. Not to mention, the hotel accommodations on Mars are poor at best, and ridiculously overpriced.
Seriously man, maybe if the spacelines and the hotels could get their shit together and make it a worthwhile experience, you might see
i can cut that budget in half (Score:2)
launch day:
"ok we're suited up and ready to go"
"see you on mars guys! t minus ten minutes now"
"say... this rocket looks kind a small... where's the return module?"
"oh, it's hidden under that booster over there, don't worry about that"
"no, i'm certain this craft is way smaller than schematics i've been shown... and it looks like we have enough fuel to only get to mars"
"tick tock, tick tock, times a wasting guys, better get inside now"
"look, here's the manifest, my gosh, we only have half the amount of oxygen
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Whoosh!
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Hey - I thought the OP was being serious. But I get that a lot - subtle humor is often lost on me...
Thats what you get for replying to a post without checking what is was modded as.
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The GP isn't the idiot here...
Confucius say (Score:4, Funny)
Confucius say "Sending giant rocket to see little piece of dust like bringing mountain to Mohammad."
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Seeing as Confucius died almost a thousand years before Muhammed was born, that seems an unreliable quote.
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Very little science? (Score:2)
Is it just me, or is there apparently very little science in that picture (to my untrained eye, anyway)? It shows the size of the particle, true, but very little else, IMHO. I guess I was underwhelmed by the picture - I was hoping for more resolution to show any texture of the particles.
Has anyone seen any hard science out of this mission yet? I see press releases, but no spectrographs or elemental makeup data on the soil samples baked so far.
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Psst. At least it's red!
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I think when I get home Ill Photoshop a dust mite on it and really shake the world.
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Seriously?
Ok, how about confirming beyond any reasonable doubt that there are significant amounts of water ice just inches below the surface? Or the discovery that mars soil is very similar to some soils here on earth but also has some toxins that will need to be nutrilized if we ever decide to grow something there.
With the exception of major discoveries proven beyond any reasonable doubt, Scientists don't like to publish speculation, and until the papers are written and peer reviewed that's all they are.
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Worth a look (Score:2)
Are these simply toxic meteorites, or did the gov't slip up and accidentally post photos of aliens arriving at the Martian Academy Awards?
Isn't this how... (Score:2)
... Species II started?
What! (Score:3)
Well, it's not what I expected. I kinda imagined a tiny rock.
In case of slashdotting . . . (Score:5, Funny)
Good Intentions (Score:3, Funny)
Either both you, and your moderators, are a little too quick on the button today, or I don't know what "+5 informative" means anymore.
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Source info and images (Score:5, Informative)
The image proves it! (Score:2, Funny)
Image in article (Score:2)
Am I the only one who raised an eyebrow at the image they used in the article?
Headline: NASA: Mars Lander sends most detailed Martian pics yet
Followed by what I suppose is an artists rendition of Mars from far enough away that it only takes up a quater of the image.
That's no speck of dust, that's a fucking planet!
Great illustration. (Score:2)
"NASA: Mars Lander sends most detailed Martian pics yet"
Gotta love the picture they used to illustrate that. "Most detailed pictures yet!" *low res picture of the whole planet.*
Picture (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know why so often we get articles linked to sources completely unrelated to the topic at hand. I understand and appreciate PCMag having articles unrelated to PC's occassionally for the edification of their readers, but there's no reason not to get a topical source for sharing on Slashdot. Space.com and spaceref.com are great news sites for lay-persons, and one thing NASA is generally outstanding about is having detailed, up-to-date, and accurate mission websites. [arizona.edu]
/rant
Anyways, I think calling this a picture affects readers' expectations. The atomic force microscope is a coordinate mapping tool rather than a camera. It uses tiny probes [arizona.edu] to sense the surface profile of a target and create elevation maps based on that data. It's more of a three-dimensional graph than a picture and it doesn't use light, but it can reveal much finer details than an optical microscope can.
Here's a similar image [arizona.edu] to that linked in the summary overlayed with an optical microscope picture of the same area. Note that the optical microscope image is about 3 mm across, of a target of micromachined silicon that has a bunch of tiny pits, posts, and bumps intended to hold dust particles of different types. The atomic force microscope image is 100 times the resolution of the optical image.
Actually, even the optical microscope on Phoenix is far higher resolution than any camera previously flown to another world, but the AFM takes the capability two steps further. Between the two, the Phoenix team is learning a lot about the soil on Mars that should allow them to deduce not only its bulk properties, but even hints about how it formed.
By the way, the Mars Rovers have "microscopic imagers," but these are really more like close-focus cameras than true microscopes. Offhand I can't think of any other robotic space missions that carried microscopes.
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Thanks for the info. I happen to enjoy the light space coverage myself - I don't have the time to watch the missions, and there is literally tons of info generated by NASA per day.
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Well, roughly 12 years ago I was in the data archiving business, and I remember that NASA generated 1.2TB of space data per day. This doesn't include engineering, life sciences, analyzers, contractors, etc... I can only imagine that this has risen astronomically (hahaha) in these last few years.
I've ready recently that NASA aims to keep about 40 petabytes of recent data online & nearline. If you put it all together, I'm fairly sure that "tons" is probably an apt measure - most certainly if we're talk
Re:Picture (Score:4, Interesting)
Kudos to NASA for doing this.
We've got an AFM in my lab, and it's easily the most troublesome piece of equipment that I have to work with on a regular basis.
It's slow, extremely sensitive to vibrations, and the tips have to be replaced frequently. What's worse is that it's not always all that clear when your tip's gone bad, unless you're calibrating between every image taken.
The fact that they got one to another planet, and had it work properly without human intervention is pretty darn impressive.
Phoenix seems full of some rather daring decisions by NASA. I'm still shocked that the suits approved their landing trajectory and location, which gave the craft about 50/50 odds of surviving the landing.
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They did have ordinary microscopes on the diverse space stations.
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No, it's not. It's gay ("pink" is code).