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Awesome Pics of CERN's Large Hadron Collider

Posted by CmdrTaco on Sat Aug 02, 2008 08:45 AM
from the because-we-can dept.
mactard submitted a collection of insanely beautiful pictures of the Large Hadron Collider. I've always had a warm place for amazing photgraphs, and these really don't disappoint. Science really is beautiful sometimes.
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  • 3rd photo (Score:5, Funny)

    by tgd (2822) on Saturday August 02 2008, @08:48AM (#24447053)

    That 3rd photo looks an awful lot like a stargate.

    I'm assuming its a shot facing downwards, thus the pool of water or whatever that is, but it just looks cool.

    • Re:3rd photo (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Gromius (677157) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:01AM (#24447137)
      You're not the first person to think so [cmsinfo.cern.ch]. It is suspicious that no answer is actually given....
      • Truth is stranger than fiction...

        Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project [wikipedia.org] -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          "Turns out, the government really did have a Stargate Project [wikipedia.org] -- it was just about psychics, not aliens. And they didn't find any. Of either."

          Actually they did. You might want to read Mind-Reach, the 1977 original book about SCANATE, the SRI project that later became GRILL FLAME then was closed (at least officially) by the CIA under the name STAR GATE. Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.

          http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Reach-Scientists-Psychic-Abilities-Conscious [amazon.com]

          • Some of their 'hits' detailed in this book are pretty darn impressive.

            Care to relate any of them?

            The tricky thing about remote viewing is not that it doesn't work, but that it's hard to separate the 'signal' from the 'noise'.

            Which is, in essence, the definition of a cold reading. [wikipedia.org]

            While I'm at it, check out Banachek [banachek.org].

            I'm not saying it's impossible, and I would agree with this:

            But when you get significant results that contradict theory, it's the theory that should change, if you're doing science.

            However, this being little more than a hobby, I don't really want to buy a book. If the results really are that compelling, there should be some web resource you can point me to.

    • Re:3rd photo (Score:5, Interesting)

      by kestasjk (933987) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:57AM (#24447585) Homepage
      While we're swooning over the LHC watch the Large Hadron Rap video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM [youtube.com] (Don't worry, it's made by some of the people who work there and it's pretty funny, and sums it up nicely)
    • by ColdWetDog (752185) * on Saturday August 02 2008, @11:51AM (#24448591) Homepage
      Well, the FIRST picture looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster with it's clothes off.

      ... averts eyes ...
  • "This thing is going to kill us all."

    • by Gromius (677157) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:06AM (#24447173)
      Look I've never understood what the LHC is going to kill us all thing. I'm a physicist working on the CMS experiment so perhaps I can explain what we are going to do more clearly. All we plan to do is take two proton beams or 'streams' and then cross them. Why is everybody so worried?
      • by v1 (525388) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:27AM (#24447353) Homepage Journal

        Dr. Egon Spengler: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
        Dr. Peter Venkman: What?
        Dr. Egon Spengler: Don't cross the streams.
        Dr. Peter Venkman: Why?
        Dr. Egon Spengler: It would be bad.
        Dr. Peter Venkman: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?
        Dr. Egon Spengler: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
        Dr Ray Stantz: Total protonic reversal.
        Dr. Peter Venkman: Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      "This thingis going to kill us all"

      Don't worry, be happy....... that if it does it will happen so fast that you won't know it.

      However become concerned if you live within 50 miles and the power in your home drops out around the time they turn it on.

  • Nice server room. They're still going to use distributed storage to put all their data at other universities and national labs.
  • by Rooked_One (591287) on Saturday August 02 2008, @08:58AM (#24447117) Journal
    So, it begs the question - where's our savior, Gordan Freeman?
  • by Anrego (830717) * on Saturday August 02 2008, @08:59AM (#24447121)

    .. this can't end well

      • They have enough bandwidth to transfer datasets that are measured in terabytes to universities around the world.

        Actually the datasets are now measured in petabytes. The first test petabyte of data, for ATLAS at least, was transfered out of CERN in 2006.

  • by eekygeeky (777557) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:01AM (#24447133)

    this is clearly copyright infringement.

  • by ClaraBow (212734) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:16AM (#24447269)
    It is astonishing what man can accomplish when not at war!
    • by antic (29198) on Saturday August 02 2008, @10:38AM (#24447941)

      +1 on amazing.

      I don't know how it works exactly, but it's massive, incredibly complicated and absolutely stunning. Something of a beacon to children becoming interested in science, I'm sure.

      A toast to the brains behind it and those who got it funded.

  • by Gromius (677157) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:17AM (#24447275)
    I always find the most impressive things about the detectors is the cabling that you have to do. The CMS ECAL has at least 61,200 cables to read out all the the crystals, the tracker (first photo) also has thousands and thousands of cables. Trying to wire the damn thing up is an epic task (one I'm happy to have avoided) and trust me, you dont want to screw up.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I was thinking the same thing. Could this be the most complex device ever assembled by humankind? Just the diagnostics and debugging seems way beyond daunting.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        you're telling me. Trying to figure out if the damn thing is working is an epic task. It takes hundreds of scientists, all testing little parts to commission these things. And trust me everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Right now I'm writing monitoring software to ensure that we can trigger electrons and photons and to diagnose problems when they occur and its a huge pain in the ass. And when we think its working, even then we will have a round the clock team in place to continuously monitor it add
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      And what about reproducibility?.
      It would be rather hard too say "Oh yeah, I confirmed that experiment in my laboratory". If something would be wrong wired and thereby giving some false positives, how do you test for those? They must have some redundant checking mechanism somewhere...

  • by fullgandoo (1188759) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:21AM (#24447307)
    If this wasn't designed by inter-galactic aliens, i'll eat my hat. I can't think of any purpose of this machine other than them beaming down their armies as soon as the thing is fully powered.
    Search for exotic particles? Yeah right!
  • by Channard (693317) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:26AM (#24447343) Journal
    It does look impressive. Now all we need is an undead assassin to tow it out into space attached to a giant insect. Before we all die horribly.
  • Holy Shit! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:27AM (#24447357)

    Picture 5, I just spotted the Higgs Boson! Oh no wait, hold on. False alarm folks. Just a dead pixel.

  • ET technology (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SpaceGoret (577395) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:31AM (#24447381)
    This is so beautiful. It looks like extra-terrestrial technology.
  • The Big Picture (Score:3, Informative)

    by DrHanser (845654) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:38AM (#24447437) Homepage
    The Big Picture photoblog is quite good. I've been subscribed to its RSS feed for nearly a month now, and it never disappoints.
  • Wow! (Score:3, Funny)

    by fahrbot-bot (874524) on Saturday August 02 2008, @09:46AM (#24447505)
    Let me be the first to say: That's a LOT of zip ties...
  • by somethinsfishy (225774) on Saturday August 02 2008, @10:50AM (#24448035)

    The tools are beautiful objects, to be sure. But what makes beautiful science is elegant, concise, and simple (within the context) descriptions of how the universe works.

  • I wanted to try and find the location of the last pic in Google maps. So I went to maps.google.com, and typed in Lake Geneva. It suggested something called "Lake Geneva", WI. I thought, OK, typical Americanocentrism, so I searched for Lake Geneva, Switzerland, and ended up with "Lake Geneva Uninc Switzerland County, IN". I zoomed out of that place a fair way, and I couldn't see any water. What gives? Brin, you listening?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      That's because the real name is lake Leman, not Geneva, dont know why english folks use the Geneva town name for the lake

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward

      You just reminded me of an LHC fact my professor told me a year or so ago: when lake geneva is particularly full, the *country* bends enough that CERN have to take it into account. It's just that sensitive.

  • The comments (Score:3, Insightful)

    by nightfire-unique (253895) on Saturday August 02 2008, @12:37PM (#24449025)
    The comments on that page are as depressing as the pictures are beautiful and impressive. :(
    • Naw, it's gonna be filled with black holes.

      THE END IS NIGH! REPENT!!!

          • According to Wikipedia, 95% confidence interval is 114 to 140 GeV/c2.

            That is if you fit it to the Standard Model. Since we have no idea if the SM holds to LHC energies you cannot really believe that as a real bound. In fact, if we measure the Higgs at 200GeV/c2 my guess is that we'd revisit some of the input measurements and find that the result is probably not as inconsistent as we originally thought i.e. take these limits with a LARGE grain of salt, they depend on a lot of different, complex measurements all being correct.

            What is far more certain is that we have to see

    • Man's technology has exceeded his grasp.

      Whitespace is one of the technologies it would seem.

    • by kvezach (1199717) on Saturday August 02 2008, @02:38PM (#24450101)
      Look at you, poster... a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you wait for your karma reward. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal supercollider?
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        Well, if it does happen I expect you to come back to this thread and say you're sorry.

        *nods*

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Let's review the messed-up logic:

      cyclic illogic #2

      2A) Because input stimuli in the LHC happen in nature all of the time, the LHC is perfectly safe.

      versus

      2B) We have spent billions of Euros on this thing, because we have never observed the outcomes of the LHC in nature.

      1A and 1B cannot both be true. 2A and 2B cannot both be true.

      Your cyclic illogic has a fatal flaw. Just because we know these things happen in nature all the time doesn't mean we can easily study them. However, we know they happen, the Earth has survived 4.5by of them, and we're not dead yet. Ergo, they can't be too dangerous.

      Mother Nature does hit the Earth with collisions of LHC energies on up all the time and has been doing so since the beginning. Although we know this because we can see the results with cosmic ray experiments, they are unusual enough that we