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New Dinosaur Species Discovery In Utah Released

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wed Oct 03, 2007 01:40 PM
from the massive-masticator dept.
A new species of dinosaur discovered in Utah's Grand Staircase was only recently released to the public. Dubbed Gryposaurus Monumentensis (derived from a combination of "hook-beaked lizard" and a tip of the hat to the discovery location) scientists estimate this duck-billed dino could have had as many as 800 teeth in his massive mouth. "While the diet is unknown, given the considerable size of the creature, the massive teeth and jaws are thought to have been used to slice up large amounts of tough, fibrous plant material. The teeth may hold important clues the dinosaur's eating habits. The Utah museum plans to study the composition of the dinosaur teeth, which when compared to other plant-eating dinosaurs from the Kaiparowits Formation, will help researchers decipher differences in diet."
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  • 800 teeth (Score:5, Funny)

    by Iphtashu Fitz (263795) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @01:42PM (#20841233)
    and the diet is unknown? I think it's safe to say that this thing ate whatever the hell it damn well wanted to eat.
  • released! (Score:5, Funny)

    by rucs_hack (784150) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @01:43PM (#20841249)
    OMG they released a Dinosour in Utah! Run for the hills!
    • by Orange Crush (934731) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @01:46PM (#20841295)

      OMG they released a Dinosour in Utah! Run for the hills!

      Fortunately, there are plenty of hills (and mountains) in Utah to run for. Our wives will be safe.

          • Unless I'm mistaken, then ONLY way to reach the endgame top-level of the mormon heaven-pyramid is to have plural wives.
            You are most definitely mistaken.
  • Practically whenever I see dinosaurs depicted in movies, TV or other mass media, they're shown living in deserts, among volcanoes, as if their environment were the same then as it is now, when we find their fossils in those harsh conditions. Since species go extinct when they're not fit to survive a changed environment, I expect they didn't actually live in places that looked like that.

    This "new" dinosaur was found in a desert, near the Grand Staircase. Does the Staircase predate the death of these dinosaur
    • I wonder how those sorts of people would handle all of the marine fossils here in SW Kansas. Draw/film them lying around on the grass? Big-assed sea monsters in farm ponds? Heh.

      Does the Staircase predate the death of these dinosaurs?

      I can't tell if you're illustrating a point or seriously asking a question, but in case it's a question, the answer appears to be:

      Yeah, most of the stone was there, but it was nothing like it is today [wikipedia.org]

      See especially the map on that page.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Does it predate the dinosaurs? Parts of it do. During the Cretaceous, however, it was part of the seabed and coastal plain (depending on the water level, which varied throughout the era): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Staircase [wikipedia.org]

      This wasn't desert back then, though. The Cretaceous coastal plain was scrubland with scattered forest. Flowering plants and grasses were replacing older conifers and other more primitive fauna. Hadrosaurs are known to have eaten pine branches from stomach remains. They did

    • Most absurd of all are movies showing giant dinosaurs roaming cities resembling Tokyo.
    • Practically whenever I see dinosaurs depicted in movies, TV or other mass media, they're shown living in deserts, among volcanoes

      There is actually some logic to this: grass had not evolved while the Dinosaurs were around. There are now not many places on the planet where there is no grass except where nothing grows so volcanoes and deserts are logical locations. This was mentioned in the "Making of Walking With Dinosaurs" as one of the biggest problems with finding good filming locations.
      • The article says these dinosaurs were Cretaceous. Piperno and Sues say grass fed Cretaceous dinosaurs [wikipedia.org]. I don't think the Earth was as barren as you think.
          • No, in other words, whatever fed those Cretaceous dinosaurs was enough like grass that we're not making any distinction.

            The scale of Anonymous Cowards' ability to just create shit from shinola is epochal.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        There is actually some logic to this: grass had not evolved while the Dinosaurs were around. There are now not many places on the planet where there is no grass except where nothing grows so volcanoes and deserts are logical locations. This was mentioned in the "Making of Walking With Dinosaurs" as one of the biggest problems with finding good filming locations.

        Actually, there is some evidence for grasses in the Cretaceous. However, they were nowhere near as common as they are today, so there almost certai

    • >>as if their environment were the same then as it is now, when we find their fossils in those harsh conditions.

      I live in Missouri, which was under water much of that time. We have sea shells all over the place. Of course, that was likely due to the global flood around 4000 years ago.

      I've always wondered if bones millions of years old are perfectly preserved, or if they all go through some sort of change such as shrinking or enlarging that just takes millions of years to occur.
      • Which global flood 4Kya? And why would you think fossil bones shrink or grow? Does this have something to do with the schools in Missouri, or some Mark Twain society?
  • by GogglesPisano (199483) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @01:55PM (#20841447)
    While certainly a fascinating find, bones alone can tell us only so much about these fascinating creatures.

    For example: how did Jesus strap His saddle on a Gryposaurus?

    • He may have seen a leviathan" [wikipedia.org] or a behemoth [wikipedia.org].
    • Second-century sources suggest that he'd be more concerned about the impact on bystanders in your hypothetical...

      Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into being before you, and which neither die not become manifest, how much you will have to bear!" --Gospel of Thomas

      ...or the allusive...

      Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

      But probably
  • Yes, I am a pedant. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Webs 101 (798265) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @01:58PM (#20841505) Homepage
    It had "only" 300 teeth in its mouth. The rest of them were replacement teeth in its jaw, waiting to replace worn out teeth in the mouth, sort of like sharks - in the loosest sense. Hadrosaur teeth melded together to create a single huge chewing surface. Imagine if your molars were pushed together without spaces between them.

    Now, this giant tooth masses would unroll from the jaws sort of like a massive roll of ultra-thick paper towels. Teeth would wear out at the chewing face and be continually replaced by teeth in the "roll" behind them.

    And, when you use genus-species binomial nomenclature, the genus is capitalized but the species is not: it's spelled Gryposaurus monumentensis, which TFA got right.

  • So these things, like, evolved into ducks or something?

    "Run Doctor Grant, run for your life!" QUAAAACK!

  • by djh101010 (656795) * on Wednesday October 03 2007, @02:01PM (#20841557) Homepage Journal
    Too bad they didn't choose to name this species after a particularly vocal anti-science crusader. I don't have any in particular in mind, but, seems like nothing would be quite so annoying as that.
  • Name (Score:3, Funny)

    by rlp (11898) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @02:02PM (#20841575)
    Might I suggest naming it after another soon-to-be-extinct species, hence the "Zuneosaur".
    • Might I suggest naming it after another soon-to-be-extinct species, hence the "Zuneosaur".

      Being Utah, maybe the Scosaur? I won't accept when it has been beaten and made itself irrelevant.
  • huh? (Score:5, Funny)

    by thatskinnyguy (1129515) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @02:11PM (#20841695)
    Did anyone else parse that as "Gripeosaurus"? I thought they were talking about my ex there for a second.
  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) on Wednesday October 03 2007, @02:12PM (#20841711) Journal
    Even the simple garden snail has hundreds of "teeth". Reference. [si.edu]
  • ...Utahraptor?
  • Every time the scientists dig up a fossil, they add two more "missing links" to the Creationists databases.
  • I married one of those! They only seem to come in the female form... and they gripe all the time!
  • I scanned the article, but the usual estimate height/weight of the dinosaur is missing. Would some one please dig up the info and post it. (Height in number of school buses or stories high, and weight in number of baby elephants or the good old standby libraries of congress).
  • I don't see why this is such a discovery. Dinosaur in Utah...pft... I mean we already have a live one in captivity here. [wikipedia.org] I mean who cares about stupid bones...we even know what awful noises [hatchmusic.com] it is capable of making.
  • given the considerable size of the creature, the massive teeth and jaws are thought to have been used to slice up large amounts of...

    Mammals: It's what's for dinner.

  • Why is this news?

    I read somewhere that we discover a new dinosaur species about once a month.
  • Massive teeth and jaws you say? They should have named it the Bababooeyasaurus.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      This contradicts The Book of Moron, therefore it must be false.
      If you're making a reference to the Book of Mormon, I feel that I must contradict you. There is nothing in the book of Mormon that indicates, one way or the other, the existence of dinosaurs. In addition, the book of mormon starts (chronologically speaking) around 600 BC, which is well after the time of dinosaurs. Check your facts before you post, anonymous coward!
      • If you're making a reference to the Book of Mormon, I feel that I must contradict you. There is nothing in the book of Mormon that indicates, one way or the other, the existence of dinosaurs. In addition, the book of mormon starts (chronologically speaking) around 600 BC, which is well after the time of dinosaurs. Check your facts before you post, anonymous coward!

        Perhaps there are no dinosaurs mentioned by name but there are dragons [lds.org], satyrs [lds.org], cockatrice [lds.org], and least we for get the very easily visualized cureloms and cumoms [lds.org]. Not to mention a menagerie of generic monsters [lds.org] and beasts. With all due respect, I'd say the mormons pretty much nailed it.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          I'm sorry, I don't know if you are making a joke or not. I don't feel well today, so I am humor-impaired. You do realize that you are really quoting things out of context? The satyr and cockatrice references are quotes from the book of Isaiah, (unless you are stating that all Jews and Christians also believe in those too). Mormons don't believe in dragons. The quote is talking about a group of men who "like dragons did they fight". The "generic monster" that you talk about is in context,

          "O how great t
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            Sorry if my comment came accross as rude humor. Your point is well taken. However, I was trying to indicate an irony: the Book of Mormon and indeed other holy books (which claim to have a fair amount of information in them about how the universe functions) have plenty of references to non-existent creatures. Yet, they somehow fail to mention the dinosaurs (real "mythological" creatures we know existed). In or out of context, in the form of quotes or bad humor, it is a perfectly legitimate thing to point
    • I think you mean the Book of Moroni. It's the Latin plural for moron, and incidentally, exists. [wikipedia.org]

      (Sorry, I couldn't resist; and yes, I know that "moron" is Greek.)

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Give it a rest already. I know everyone on slashdot hates religion, but this story's only connection to Mormonism is Utah.

      Seems like everyone on slashdot is quick to preach tolerance and respect for anyone...except the religious. Seems sort of hypocritical. Slashdot is getting more and more like Digg every time I visit.
    • no, it's raptor jesus. he went extinct for your sins.
    • Nah, I don't think ID / Creationism jokes are going to get old any time soon. It's always funny, in a scary sort of way, when a large group of people deliberately and systematically delude themselves.