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Methane-Eating Bacteria Could Combat Global Warming

Posted by Zonk on Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:28 PM
from the now-just-need-to-work-on-oil-eating-bugs dept.
realwx writes "New Zealand scientists have found a bacterium, named 'Methylokorus infernorum,' that eats a key global warming chemical. Found in a hot spring, the bug lives off of methane emissions from geothermically active areas. A scientist quoted in the article stated that a cubic meter of liquid containing the bacterium would consume about 11kg of methane each year. 'But Dr Stott cautioned that such an application was probably some years into the future. He said it was unlikely the micro-organism, which prefers acidic conditions of about 60C, could ever be added to sheep or cows' food to stop the animals releasing methane.'"
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 23 2007, @10:37PM (#21459841)
    my wife would appreciate some methane reducing lifeforms to combat my post-Thanksgiving gas venting. I've literally been a musical instrument all day long.
  • Oblig. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Ethanol-fueled (1125189) on Friday November 23 2007, @10:38PM (#21459851) Homepage
    From TFS: "He said it was unlikely the micro-organism, which prefers acidic conditions of about 60C, could ever be added to sheep or cows' food to stop the animals releasing methane."

    No, that's what this [beanogas.com] is for!
  • Just burn it? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BlueParrot (965239) on Friday November 23 2007, @10:42PM (#21459865)
    Wouldn't it be better to just collect the methane and burn it to displace coal/oil? Sure, you still get CO2 , but methane has the highest energy yield per CO2 yield of all the hydrocarbons, and it is orders of magnitude cleaner than Coal.
    • Wouldn't it be better to just collect the methane and burn it to displace coal/oil? Sure, you still get CO2 , but methane has the highest energy yield per CO2 yield of all the hydrocarbons, and it is orders of magnitude cleaner than Coal.

      How many cows and/or sheep would I have to keep on the roof of my car to get enough methane to drive to the store?

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Cows and sheep isn't the only thing emitting methane. Landfills emit it en-masse. Pretty much anywhere you have organic material decomposing without a ready access of oxygen you get methane.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          All of the landfills I've visted in and around the Houston area have methane capture power generation. It's a standard thing to have in place from what I hear.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Indeed. Just have a look at the decay on the forest floor of all those pristine tropical jungles. I propose we clear those jungles as soon as possible and instead grow corn for Ethanol. As for the rest of the world we need that de-leafing agent "What's the name again?" to clear trees of their leaves in spring so we won't those leaves rotting and emitting greenhouse gasses that kill Polar bears. We all need to do our bit to stop the world from rotating, uh, I mean stop the tide. Oops, I mean stop climate ch
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      That would make too much sense :) Actually a lot of waste dumps are already collecting the methane released and using it for those purposes. Let's face it - this is BS propagandistic garbage; most likely coming from the same people saying that farting cows are destroying the world. First it was CO2, then it was freon, now it's methane, next will be rich capitalists who need their money taken away as punishment. Nobody is offering any real solutions, only blame. It's politics more than it's real concern f
      • Re:Just burn it? (Score:4, Informative)

        by TheRaven64 (641858) on Saturday November 24 2007, @06:25AM (#21461625) Homepage Journal
        Methane has a much greater effect on the atmosphere than carbon dioxide, I'm told. If you burn methane, however, you get carbon dioxide and water, so it seems that the solution to the problem is to collect and burn the methane. For bonus points, you also get energy.

        As I see it, the problem is that the cycle is carbon dioxide to long chain hydrocarbons in plants then animals to methane. If you burn the methane, you create a closed cycle, which has no net effect on the atmosphere (you put back the same amount of carbon dioxide you remove). Sequestering methane makes a lot less sense than sequestering carbon dioxide, since you can't easily get energy out of carbon dioxide.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      And precisely how to you anticipate collecting methane from cows (burps, not farts)?

      This is highly relevant for New Zealand as 50% of our greenhouse gas emissions are in fact from cow methane.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 23 2007, @10:46PM (#21459885)
    If this substance found its way into the food supply, it could be the end of ancient tradition of fart-lighting. The cultural loss would be incalculable.
  • ...but it's still going to be producing some sort of waste. The article didn't mention at all what the bacteria produced as a byproduct of it's methane consumption. It doesn't do us a whole of good if it pops out radioactive sludge now does it. I don't think it should be written off as "vaporware" but this is obviously still very much in it's infancy. The article was very sparse on specifics other than putting out the sensational headline about curing global warming. Check back in a few years.
    • by SeekerDarksteel (896422) on Friday November 23 2007, @10:52PM (#21459913)
      I don't think it should be written off as "vaporware" but this is obviously still very much in it's infancy.

      I pretty sure that even if this technology is sufficiently developed it should still be classified as vaporware.
    • and of course, what other side effects are there? We must be careful before we try and fix our meddling by meddling more. Sure. the bacteria is natural, but in what environment?
    • The truth is while methane is a very powerfull greenhouse gass, it washes out of the attmosphere pretty quickly so it really doesn't contribute global warming even if greenhouse gasses do.
  • "Which prefers acidic conditions of about 60C"

    So, im not Biologist, but wouldn't the inside of a cows stomach have lots of acid? And the internal body temperature of a cow is probably similar to a humans. So we have the acid, and we are off by about 20 degrees. I'm sure some geneticist somewhere can figure out how to adapt it to these conditions.

    Another idea may be to put these bacteria into the pools where the manurer is left to decompose?
  • old news (Score:2, Interesting)

    i though that was common sense in the scientific class that the early earth atmosphere composed essentially by metane and other greenhouse-effect gases was modified by these bugs who fixated the gases from the air. maybe one day when the ocean water become 60C these bugs could come to the surface and to the trick again.
  • by postbigbang (761081) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:00PM (#21459965)
    How many liters would have to be put into Capitol Hill each year to offset the methane there.... the mind boggles!
  • by dondonz (910642) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:04PM (#21459989)
    In other news, scientists also discover a way of combatting another major greenhouse gas - carbon dioxide. This newly discovered group of organisms, tentatively called "plants", not only absorbs the carbon dioxide gas, but also produces oxygen AND SOME can be quite tasty in a stir-fry. Further research is continuing, with the hopes these so-called "plants" becoming commercially viable by 2010.
  • by InvisblePinkUnicorn (1126837) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:05PM (#21459995)
    So, 1 cubic meter will take care of 11 kg. How much to take care of our 330 teragram annual emission? A couple dozen cubic kilometers?
  • by Diddlbiker (1022703) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:12PM (#21460023)
    Because other experiments in the past to release some kind of life form to combat something we deem as inconvenient has worked soooooo well: * introducing rabbits in Australia * introducing foxes to eat said rabbits * crossing European and African honey bees to get the best of both worlds... * snakeheads in Eastern USA * american frogs in europe And about another 1000 examples of introducing animals outside their natural habitat have all worked out so well. So, yeah, let's release those bugs!
  • Human meddling... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by LoadWB (592248) * on Friday November 23 2007, @11:16PM (#21460045) Homepage Journal
    Anyone ever get the feeling that we are going to really muck things up by trying to "fix" things? We introduce new species of animal or bacteria to an environment to control naturally occurring beings, then these predators completely take over and become a problem in and of themselves. So and on so forth.

    I have to believe sometimes that we as humans are simply not smart enough, or perhaps do not see enough of the big picture, to understand the intricacies of the world or the universe to implement such grand scale processes.
  • Methylokorus infernorum. What consumes it when it gets out of control. I am being corny and soy-ey. (sorry)

    Still, the globe on which we currently reside is going through changes. I am sure we play a part, but let us not get an ego. This planet has known this for some time longer than us.

    Reducing our negative impacts and increasing our positive cannot be wrong by definition in my book. We can only do positive together.

  • ...and it pisses gasoline, right?

    rj
  • It is pointless to try to "change the climate". The earth will do what it's always done, and that is to adapt.

    Humans are also pretty good at adapting, unless the planet undergoes dramatic climate change like it did in that scary movie.
  • could ever be added to sheep or cows' food to stop the animals releasing methane


    It's the ironic world we live in where we have to stop global warming at all costs even by disrupting the natural order of things.

  • Archaea are extremophiles that can turn methane into oil to power our SUVs directly. Incorporate archaea into genetically altered cows to increase their body temperature to a balmy 70 degrees Celsius or so, and cows could be made to pee gasoline, instead of farting methane.

    Nevermind the tiger, put a genetically enhanced cow in your tank.
    • but would have no effect on methane, which is what the article is about, so STFU.
      • by Telvin_3d (855514) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:09PM (#21460007)
        I don't know. I think building all those country acreages helps combat global warming. After all, it doesn't take many city drivers who are unused to the country running over stray cows to make a measurable difference in methane output.
    • by MightyYar (622222) on Friday November 23 2007, @11:02PM (#21459975)
      Great idea - just change human behavior and it'll work great! Hey, it worked for the communists.

      Ooooor, you could try to use technology to improve the situation. But don't let me interrupt your Quixotian quest to change people by admonishing them. Get them to stop eating beef while you are at it.
    • It's not the scientist's job to simply encourage gardens. It's also not the scientist's fault that citizens are not willing to cut back on carbon-emissions. So what does a scientist do? He (or she) tries to find an alternative solution to a problem that has an answer nobody is willing to comply with.
    • by camperdave (969942) on Saturday November 24 2007, @12:26AM (#21460449) Journal
      Here's a better idea. Stop cutting them down in the first place.

      One fifth of the world's tropical rainforest was destroyed between 1960 and 1990. Estimates of deforestation of tropical forest for the 1990s range from about 55,630 to 120,000 square kilometres each year. At this rate, all tropical forests may be gone by the year 2090.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation [wikipedia.org]
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Here's another shocker. Planting trees isn't always a good solution, and it can sometimes contribute to the problem. Not all forests release more O2 than they store CO2, plus they decrease the Earth's surface albedo. Fortunately most tropical forests do release more O2, except new forests (young trees release more CO2 it seems).

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Trees only absorb CO2 to build more tree - they don't destroy it or use it as fuel or some other nonsense that people seem to believe.

        Grow a tree and you have removed carbon from the atmosphere. Burn it down and you have put it back again
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Plants releasing CO2? That defies basic biology.

          No it doesn't. All plants respire. They convert sugars (and starch) and oxygen to carbon dioxide and water. During the day, they also convert carbon dioxide and water to sugar (then starch) and oxygen. Photosynthesis is just a way of storing the chemicals they need for respiration. If they are not getting enough sunlight, then they will emit more carbon dioxide than they consume.

          The real problem is when they decompose and turn carbon dioxide (which they sequestered) into methane.

    • I said similar things above, but I was snarky because it was an AC post.

      You aren't going to change human nature. The only thing that you can do to reduce beef consumption in the long term is to make it more expensive for people to purchase.

      Given that, technological solutions should be welcomed. I agree that reducing beef consumption would be the superior solution, but if that isn't going to happen, won't reducing the impact of beef production be better than nothing?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      If god wanted us to cut back on cow consumption, they wouldn't be made of tasty meat. Who are you to argue with god's intelligent design?

      -karmaburn
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Do you really think any beef you eat nowadays ate grass only for a couple of years? Those days are long over.

          Better check your facts. A pure corn will kill a cow in less than a year. The typical cow spends less than a fraction one season on a feedlot. It costs way more to feedlot a cow than to let it eat grass for most of it's life. Only in the final stages of fattening up is it productive. No sane person would grain feed anything over most of it's life. So if you base your conclusions on what you believed was a fact you need to reassess them.

          Beef requires 25 kilocalories fodder input for 1 calorie meat output, _that's_ wasteful. Instead of producing beef fodder, you could feed 25 times more people with vegetables and they would live decades longer on top.

          I'd like to see your facts. It takes prodigious amounts of water