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How Much Caffeine is Really in That Soda?

Posted by Zonk on Sat Jul 07, 2007 08:05 PM
from the buzz-buzz-buzz dept.
The Fun Guy writes "The Institute of Food Technologists summarizes some recent research on food. All things considering, it should settle some arguments among geeks about the caffination of beverages. 'Caffeine is a well-known stimulant added as an ingredient to various carbonated soft drinks, but which drink contains the most, and how can consumers know? A study in the Journal of Food Science used high-performance liquid chromatography to analyze the caffeine contents of 56 national-brand and 75 private-label store brand carbonated beverages. Caffeine contents ranged from 4.9 mg/12 oz (IGA Cola) to 74 mg/12 oz (Vault Zero). Some of the more common national-brand carbonated beverages analyzed in this study were Coca-Cola (33.9 mg/12 oz), Diet Coke (46.3 mg/12 oz), Pepsi (38.9 mg/12 oz), Diet Pepsi (36.7 mg/12 oz), Dr Pepper (42.6 mg/12 oz), Diet Dr Pepper (44.1 mg/12 oz), Mountain Dew (54.8 mg/12 oz), and Diet Mountain Dew (55.2 mg/12 oz). The authors found that store-brand beverages generally contained less caffeine, and they also suggest that consumers would benefit from having the actual caffeine content labeled on the beverage.'"
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  • Jolt? (Score:2, Interesting)

    What about Jolt? How much caffeine is it in Jolt?
    • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Ledsock (926049) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:13PM (#19784713)
      Not sure about the accuracy of this page, but it's got almost all of the drinks I've ever seen. http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database/ [energyfiend.com]
      • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Informative)

        by Jugalator (259273) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:54PM (#19784991) Journal
        Just picked out a few... Report says:
        - 38.9 for Pepsi, database says 38.
        - 33.9 for Coke, db says 34.
        - 42.6 for Dr Pepper, db says 41.
        - 46.3 for Diet Coke, db says 45.
        - 55.2 for Diet Mountain Dew, db says 55.

        So it looks pretty accurate at least, from a quick glance.

        To give some perspective as you're looking at drinks with 40 or 50 mg per 12 oz bottle, note that a regular cup of coffee can have around 60-120 mg per cup, and a Red Bull seem to have around 80 mg per can.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          According to 'death by caffeine [energyfiend.com]', for a 200 pound person:

          Pepsi: Death after 359 cans
          Coke: 401.47 cans
          Dr. Pepper: 332.93 cans
          Jolt: 62.05 cans
          • I'm pretty sure you'd reach death by diabetes first, or even over-hydration(desalinization?). Or possibly just loose the will to live after about can 40.
        • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Funny)

          by kennygraham (894697) on Sunday July 08 2007, @12:01AM (#19786191)

          Wouldn't trust that list. Look at these mg/oz measurements:

          Starbucks Grande Caffe Latte: 7.25
          Starbucks Tall Caffe Latte: 4.83

          They come from the same source coffeepot, yet they have different concentrations. Go figure.
          1. Lattes don't have anything that comes from a coffee pot. They're espresso based, not coffee based.
          2. The tall lattes have a higher milk/espresso ratio than the grandes. More milk per oz means less caffine per oz.

          IANASEBIDO (I am not a starbucks employee, but I dated one)

          • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Informative)

            by DemonThing (745994) <demonthing@gmail.cCOMMAom minus punct> on Sunday July 08 2007, @01:28AM (#19786683)
            The numbers work out perfectly. One shot of espresso is used in a tall latte, whereas two are used in a grande. A tall is 12oz, a grande is 16oz - only 1/3 more but twice the caffeine.

            4.83 * 2 / (16/12) = 7.25.
              • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Funny)

                by Plutonite (999141) on Sunday July 08 2007, @05:04AM (#19787715)
                We are more interested in the fact that you dated, rather than worked as, a Starbucks employee than in any information regarding coffee you may appear to posses. This is slashdot you see. Everything is working as per usual, nothing strange happening with the mods.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          To any phoenix based /.ers:

          There is a shop just off of scottsdale rd and mcdowell that still sells Jolt (as well as a WHOLE bunch of other really cool drinks).

          Its called "Pop The Soda Shop"....its really cool :)
          • Re:Jolt? (Score:5, Funny)

            by ari_j (90255) on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:03PM (#19785033)
            Do they have Crystal Pepsi? How much caffeine is in that? Does it age like a fine wine?
            • Do they have Crystal Pepsi? How much caffeine is in that? Does it age like a fine wine?

              After Crystal Pepsi went out of production, I bought the last 6-pack on the supermarket shelves... (I wasn't much of a fan, but it wasn't bad)

              I can assure you, 6 months after the expiration date, Crystal Pepsi tastes like dirt in water... Not a slight hint of dirt, mind you, but a slight hint of only Crystal Pepsi in your can of dirt-water...

                  • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

                    It's good to see that the AC's haven't yet picked up on sarcasm. It makes the rest of our lives much easier.
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            You can find Jolt at Safeway stores in Canada. Look in the energy drinks section
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:09PM (#19784677)
    Not enough.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        I myself prefer Yerba Mate teas [wikipedia.org]. You can buy them flavored and sweetened. The brand I drink the most is Guayaki (google it). Yerba mate teas not only have caffeine but other stimulants. I am somewhat sensitive to caffeine and i find that a mixture of stimulants leads to less side effects. Other people say they don't get the caffeine jitters from yerba mate.
      • All of them are natural, organic
        What does that mean? Is the soda found in nature?

        there is no corn syrup or other fake crap.
        Corn syrup is fake? Really? So sugarcane just "naturally" and "organically" becomes sugar?

  • Vault Zero is going start getting a push in sales for the uber-geek caffeine-riddled crowd. I kinda dig Vault, but it's got so much sugar it can quickly twist your stomach into a knot. The Zero is better with a lower sugar content. Also, it's nice to see that Diet Moutain Dew has a slightly higher caffeine content than it's regular, sugary counterpart.
    • Re:Sounds like... (Score:4, Informative)

      by garcia (6573) on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:14PM (#19785121) Homepage
      I've posted about my caffeine free lifestyle on here before but I'm too drunk (it was 97F today) to look it up while I'm mobile.

      I used to drink up to a case of Coke (in cans) daily during college and once I was done with organized athletics I decided to switch to diet to keep the calories down. I hated the way diet colas tasted so I went with the new diet drink at the time, Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper (aka, to my circle of friends, as Liquid Crack).

      After several months of drinking it, I as up to at least 4 or 5 20oz bottles and 12+ 12oz cans daily. I wasn't having any sugar guilt so I didn't think anything of the caffeine's effect on my system.

      After numerous sleepless nights in terror because of a pounding chest, I went cold turkey. That 7 day migraine sucked more than anything ever before.

      Now, over 1.5 years later, I'm much better off. I am convinced that the high caffeine levels of diet soda is to compensate for the lack of sugar and to force addiction over the flavor.

      My BP dropped to near normal levels (I was on 150MG+ of two different BP meds prior to the caffeine habit kick) which is likely a combination of the drop in caffeine as well as elevated sodium levels in diet soda and I feel a ton better overall.

      Drop the caffeine habit, you'll love yourself for it both health and money wise.
      • Re:Sounds like... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Belgand (14099) <[moc.ssertroftenalp] [ta] [dnagleb]> on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:36PM (#19785257) Homepage
        I think the more important problem is that you were drinking a very, very large amount of it. Most people don't drink nearly that much of any caffeinated beverages and thus, tend not to have serious problems with blood pressure, sleeplessness, or addiction. In short I think that your addiction (and resultant conspiracy theory that the intent is to addict you) is more related to your own usage scenario than to anything to do with the drink itself.
      • a hypocrite (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        "I've posted about my caffeine free lifestyle on here before but I'm too drunk"

        Gosh, because there's no way alcohol could be more harmful than caffeine, especially when drinking to the point of getting "too drunk."
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        I went cold turkey. That 7 day migraine sucked more than anything ever before.

        A week? You got off easy. When I quit cold turkey a few years ago after drinking 8-12 caffeinated Diet Pepsis a day, I felt like total shit for a month. Headache, body aches, lethargy, exhaustion... It was awful.

        But you're absolutely right, once the caffeine was out of my system, I felt great. I could fall asleep at night, I could sleep through the night, waking up in the morning was no problem, I had more energy, and if I ran o

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        I've posted about my caffeine free lifestyle on here before but I'm too drunk (it was 97F today) to look it up while I'm mobile. ...blah blah blah...

        Drop the caffeine habit, you'll love yourself for it both health and money wise.

        If you're worried about your health, why on earth would you be getting drunk. Switching from caffeined softdrink to water might be healthy but switching to beer not so much!
        • by garcia (6573) on Saturday July 07 2007, @10:04PM (#19785439) Homepage
          I was taking 100 to 125mg of Toprol XL and 20 to 40mg of Lisinopril (depending on what the Dr was trying to accomplish as I never got it fully under control). My BP, un-medicated, was averaging 190 to 210 over 90 to 100.

          Now I'm on 20mg of Lisinopril (to bring it further under control than it is) and I'm currently at 110 to 125 over 75 to 80. With my family history this is what the Dr recommends. I'm fine with keeping it under control in this manner.

          For a while I was down to 10mg of Lisinopril but after changing Dr's, they moved me to 20mg to keep it a bit lower than what they consider "good" for good measure.

          As far as exercise/diet goes, no, I didn't change anything other than the soda. My family history predisposes me to this and even when I was in 100% athletic shape my BP was 180/100 regularly. They attributed it to the distance events I trained for and became concerned only after I stopped. After ending the soda kicks, I didn't need the meds anymore and I began training again (after a 5 year hiatus) and found that my pressure INCREASED. This completely baffled the Dr but such is my life.

          Good luck yourself.
  • $39?! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:11PM (#19784693)
    Honestly, $39 for a single article?!!

    What's the point of posting a link to an online article in a ridiculously expensive journal?
  • Quad Espresso in an iced venti cup plus ten additional shots of espresso? Yes, that's fourteen shots in total.

    I have to repeat that order everytime I order at Starbucks, because it doesn't click the first time they hear it.
    • by Sawopox (18730) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:28PM (#19784827) Homepage Journal
      That has got to cause your sphincter to enter into almost immediate shock. I'd be unable to get more than 10-15 feet before this drink emptied me completely.
    • by inKubus (199753) on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:36PM (#19785259) Homepage Journal
      I've only had dual quads on ice, but I get the feeling the people who work at Starbucks start their days with at least that much. Spread over about 4 hours it maintains your buzz nicely. Since it's iced, you don't have to worry about oxidation and bitterness too much. I like a doppio per day but if you really have a lot to do, quad or dual quad will really keep you going. Plus they are cheap compared to the "lattes": $1.88 for a dopio with tax, 55 cents per shot and if you tip them every day for a while it'll get cheaper ;) After a few weeks I like to detox over a weekend with no caffine, otherwise "caffeinism" can set in:

      In large amounts, and especially over extended periods of time, caffeine can lead to a condition known as "caffeinism." Caffeinism usually combines "caffeine dependency" with a wide range of unpleasant physical and mental conditions including nervousness, irritability, anxiety, tremulousness, muscle twitching (hyperreflexia), insomnia, headaches, respiratory alkalosis[51] and heart palpitations.[52] Furthermore, because caffeine increases the production of stomach acid, high usage over time can lead to peptic ulcers, erosive esophagitis, and gastroesophageal reflux disease.[53] However, since both "regular" and decaffeinated coffees have been shown to stimulate the gastric mucosa and increase stomach acid secretion, caffeine is probably not the sole component of coffee responsible.[54]

      There are four caffeine-induced psychiatric disorders recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition: caffeine intoxication, caffeine-induced anxiety disorder, caffeine-induced sleep disorder, and caffeine-related disorder not otherwise specified (NOS).

      Other side effects of caffeine overuse include: dizziness, tachycardia, blurred vision, drowsiness, dry mouth, flushed dry skin, diuresis, loss of appetite, nausea and stomachaches.[55]
      -- From Caffeine Article [wikipedia.org] at Wikipedia..

      Yeah, I drank a lot for many years but it's always good to detox once in a while. Since Caffeine has a half-life in your system you can never really get rid of all of it so your base levels go up over time, especially if you have 400+mg a day. Drink tea and take a real asprin on the first day of a 3 day detox and you'll thank yourself.

      Oh, and if you're looking to prolong the half-life of coffee, you need a CYP450 [wikipedia.org] inhibitor--such as Bergamottin [wikipedia.org] or Naringin [wikipedia.org], both of which are found in fresh grapefruit juice, peel and seeds.. It's under debate which one actually affects the CYP450, but it works--trust me. So, do yourself a favor and instead of taking 600mg of caffine, take 200mg with a grapefruit juice and enjoy the better effects.
    • by GreggBz (777373) on Saturday July 07 2007, @11:23PM (#19785979) Homepage
      Screw that, homess, I like to crush up about 9 vvivirian in a pedestals and motor, and then disolve the powder in visine.
      A feqww half dozeen drop2ws in the eyyeys, I'm reararanging furniture! straingt to the bRAIN, STRAIT TO THE BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

  • by Actually, I do RTFA (1058596) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:12PM (#19784707)
    Vault Zero has 75mg/12 oz. Starbucks coffee has 200mg/12oz. Various non-soda caffeine amounts here [wikipedia.org].
  • Full Article Text (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:36PM (#19784887)
    Abstract

    ABSTRACT: Caffeine is a well-known stimulant that is added as an ingredient to various carbonated soft drinks. Due to its stimulatory and other physiological effects, individuals desire to know the exact amount of caffeine consumed from these beverages. This study analyzed the caffeine contents of 56 national-brand and 75 private-label store-brand carbonated beverages using high-performance liquid chromatography. Caffeine contents ranged from 4.9 mg/12 oz (IGA Cola) to 74 mg/12 oz (Vault Zero). Some of the more common national-brand carbonated beverages analyzed in this study with their caffeine contents were Coca-Cola (33.9 mg/12 oz), Diet Coke (46.3 mg/12 oz), Pepsi (38.9 mg/12 oz), Diet Pepsi (36.7 mg/12 oz), Dr Pepper (42.6 mg/12 oz), Diet Dr Pepper (44.1 mg/12 oz), Mountain Dew (54.8 mg/12 oz), and Diet Mountain Dew (55.2 mg/12 oz). The Wal-Mart store-brand beverages with their caffeine contents were Sam's Cola (12.7 mg/12 oz), Sam's Diet Cola (13.3 mg/12 oz), Dr Thunder (30.6 mg/12 oz), Diet Dr Thunder (29.9 mg/12 oz), and Mountain Lightning (46.5 mg/12 oz). Beverages from 14 other stores were also analyzed. Most store-brand carbonated beverages were found to contain less caffeine than their national-brand counterparts. The wide range of caffeine contents in carbonated beverages indicates that consumers would benefit from the placement of caffeine values on food labels.
    Introduction

    Caffeine, 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine, is an odorless, slightly bitter substance found in numerous plant species (Tarka and Hurst 1998). Extracts derived from these plants, such as coffee and tea beverages, naturally contain caffeine and other methylxanthines. Caffeine is intentionally added as an ingredient to many carbonated soft drinks, including colas, pepper-type beverages, and citrus beverages. Although soda manufacturers may explain that caffeine contributes to the flavor of soft drinks, only 8% of adults were able to differentiate between caffeinated and caffeine-free colas at the concentration of caffeine contained in most cola beverages (Griffiths and Vernotica 2000). These beverages appeal to many consumers because of the stimulatory effect caffeine provides.

    Caffeine has drawn more attention in the past decades due to its widespread consumption and physiological effects beyond that of its stimulatory effect (James 1991; Bernstein and others 2002; Mandel 2002). Caffeine is quickly absorbed by the body. The human salivary caffeine level, which indicates the extent of absorption, peaks around 40 min after caffeine consumption (Liguori and others 1997). Various physiological effects on the central nervous, cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, respiratory, and renal systems have been reported (Nehlig and others 1992; Spiller 1998; Hartley and others 2004; Savoca and others 2005). For example, Hartley and others (2004) reported that caffeine causes a mild elevation in blood pressure. In addition, caffeine's diuretic effect is widely known (Spiller 1998).

    Various governmental bodies have specified the maximum level of caffeine allowed in carbonated beverages. The U.S. Food and Drug Admin. limits the amount of caffeine in carbonated beverages to a maximum of 0.02% (FDA 2006). Therefore, the highest legal amount of caffeine allowed in a 355 mL (12 oz) can of soft drink is about 72 mg. Likewise, Canada limits caffeine to cola-type beverages at a level of 200 ppm or about 71 mg/12 oz (Dept. of Justice 2007). In Australia, the maximum caffeine level in cola-type beverages must not exceed 145 mg/kg or about 51 mg/12 oz while in New Zealand, the caffeine level is limited to 200 mg/kg or about 71 mg/12 oz (FSANZ 2000).

    The amount of caffeine contained in various foods and beverages has been analyzed, including coffee (Bell and others 1996), tea (Hicks and others 1996; Friedman and others 2005; Pena and others 2005; Yao and others 2006), carbonated beverages (Bunker and McWilliams 1979; Strohl 1985; Grand and Bell 1997; Pena and others 2005), and chocolate products (Caudle and others 2001; Tokusoglu a
  • Regional variations? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by identity0 (77976) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:37PM (#19784895) Journal
    I know Coke/Pepsi use different sweetners for its drinks based on local price and taste variations, so is there a possibility the caffine levels could vary as well? Also, what do they put in Coke that caffinates it? Do they just pour an amount of pure caffine in, or what?
    • Also, what do they put in Coke that caffinates it? Do they just pour an amount of pure caffine in, or what?

      The "Cola" in Coca-Cola stands for kola nut extract, which used to provide the bulk of caffeine. But after several reformulations of Coca-Cola, less actual kola is in the formula, and most of the caffeine is now pure caffeine. Caffeine is a base, and Coke has phosphoric acid to disguise the bitterness.

      Personally, I like the taste of Coca-Cola Zero [wikipedia.org] a lot better than that of Diet Coke. I can tolerate Diet Coke only in a fountain mix that emulates C2 [wikipedia.org] (50% Coca-Cola, 50% Diet Coke). But will Coke follow the example of Diet Pepsi Max in introducing a new higher-caffeine formulation? And will it be called Crack-a-Cola?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      In Australia, Mountain Dew contains no caffeine. I gather it's for regulatory reasons. As for other drinks, I couldn't say.
  • by Kohath (38547) on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:08PM (#19785065)
    It's an ALARMINGLY small/medium/large amount. Be alarmed.
    It's a CONSPIRATORIALLY large/medium/small amount. They're out to get you.
    It's a nasty CORPORATE amount. You should be randomly angry that your soda isn't made in some guy's garage by 11-year-old soda hackers.
    It's an ANTI-CONSUMER amount. Consumers deserve more/less at a lower price (free if there was any justice, man).
    It's an UNSCIENTIFIC amount. Those Christians wouldn't let stem cells evolve into the right amount -- we hate them.
    It's an amount that VIOLATES YOUR RIGHTS. Online.
    GEORGE BUSH hates your soda and makes the caffeine the wrong amount. Cheney hates the can.

    The amount is most unfair to women and minorities and we could get it fixed if they'd stop outsourcing all the soda engineering jobs to Bangalore.
  • by r_jensen11 (598210) on Saturday July 07 2007, @09:10PM (#19785079)
    Sorry, pop doesn't cut it for me any more. I suppose if I have a paper due the next day and I have to work on it late at night I can (and do) settle for Mountain Due to help me out for an hour or so thanks to its combination of caffeine and sugar. But overall, I'll take my coffee. In addition to having n times more caffeine, it is also healthier because of less sugar and has been correlated to a decrease in risk in diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, which I am afraid of getting since one of my grandfathers had Parkinson's and my other grandfather had Alzheimer's. Plus, coffee smells better
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        there is little that is nastier than a cold cup of coffee.

        ... other than a warm, flat glass of coke.

  • I've been drinking Caffeine-free (NOT DIET!) Coca-Cola ice it came out on the market a few years ago, after consuming who-knows-how-much caffeine over the course of my lifetime previous to its release. It has all the sugar and calories of regular Coke, but zero caffeine, and tastes virtually the same (although perhaps a tiny bit sweeter, as it lacks the bitterness of the caffeine). I bring a case to the office every week or two for my own consumption. People always ask me about it, as it comes in a shiny, golden coloured can, as if it were Coke for the super-rich or something.

    Unfortunately, it's brutally difficult to find. I went through a three-month stretch a year or so ago where I simply couldn't buy it at all. So now I keep a small stock-pile. I know of one store in the area that carries it (I used to know at least four, three of which have stopped carrying it), and they often get 3 or 4 cases every week or so. Recently, however, they suddenly had more than a dozen cases on their shelf, and I've been slowly buying it up.

    Anyhow, if you're looking to get your body out of the caffeine-consumption cycle, but don't want to give up that sweet, sweet nectar, look around for it. It's good stuff. Maybe if I can convince more people to drink it, it will become possible to find it in more places and more sizes (I've only ever seen it in 12-can cases and 2 litre bottles, and never in a vending machine, and only very rarely in a convenience store as single cans).

    Yaz.

  • Labeling (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ShakaUVM (157947) on Sunday July 08 2007, @03:07AM (#19787199) Homepage Journal
    I heartily, heartily agree. Caffeine content should be on the FDA labels.

    It's important to people who are 1) seeking to limit their daily caffeine or 2) trying to maximize their caffeine intake.

    Either way, it pisses me off that I can't quantify the numbers without finding sources like this.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Because in the US, soda is sold most commonly by 12 ounce cans. Vending machines usually go by 16 or 20 ounce if they use bottles instead of cans. One litre is availiable, but usually litre is reserved for 2- and 3-litre large bottles. Glass is 8 ounce or 12 ounce, if you can find glass.
    • is a measure of speed and would not work in this case and a hogshead is more than most people can drink, they had to use gram per fluid ounce...
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        As another poster has mentioned, cans are 375 mL, being half the standard 750 mL bottles of wine/large bottles of beer. In Europe they have tiny 330 mL cans.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Awww. I work as a scientist, and I have a fond spot in my heart for imperial measurements.

      You might have ten fingers, but both 12 and 16 have many more factors. One system plays nicer with decimal math, but the other is much more practical in the real world.
    • Re:Units (Score:4, Informative)

      by GizmoToy (450886) on Saturday July 07 2007, @08:38PM (#19784899) Homepage
      Well, I'd imagine the reason they used 12 ounces is because that's how much is in the typical can of soda.
    • Please stop retarding the world with your garbage non-standard unit system.
      In other news, high amounts of caffeine seem to correlate with aggression and a tendency to lash out against others...
    • That's two conversions required to work with any system, be it American or SI.

      Rather, it's one conversion to work in either system. And it's the imperial, not the American system.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Actually, in a round-a-bout way, the US DOES use the metric system.
        Since around the 1890's, US units have been officially defined in terms of metric units.