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Genetic Engineers Working to Reverse Cancer
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Zonk
on Fri Sep 01, 2006 09:25 AM
from the little-engineered-buddies dept.
from the little-engineered-buddies dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Using a patient's own modified white blood cells, a team of researchers at the National Cancer Institute has reversed advanced melanoma in a study of 17 patients. The researchers tweaked the blood to recognize and attack cancer cells, and the head of the National Institutes of Health, Elias Zerhounibut, says there's big hope now that other common cancers, like breast and lung cancer, can be similarly treated. Though only 2 of the 17 patients responded successfully to the treatment, researchers are optimistic that future improvements on the technique will improve that rate of success." From the article: "In the study, Rosenberg and his colleagues took lymphocytes from the blood and inserted into them genes for a receptor capable of 'recognizing' a protein on melanoma cells called MART-1. This would allow the lymphocyte to attach to a tumor cell and kill it. The patients, all of whom had previously undergone surgery and immune-based treatments, got chemotherapy to temporarily wipe out their immune systems. The engineered cells were then reinjected, with the hope they would proliferate as the immune system recovered."
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Oh noes, look out! (Score:5, Funny)
This is an awesome way to treat cancer (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:This is an awesome way to treat cancer (Score:4, Informative)
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Take a look at Bone Marrow Transplants (Score:2, Informative)
Bone Marrow Transplants knock out the immune system with a combo of chemo and radiation. It's not a fun process (although it is scarily simple).
Some people feel few ill effect. Most have vomiting, nausa and their hair falling out. My wife went into grade-4 Muciousitious (sp?) and had her mouth peeling. (Others have died from merely having their immune system knocked out)
The survival rates for BMT patents was something like 50-60% iirc (5 year su
bbc has more info (Score:5, Informative)
Always nice to see the light of science burning brighter and any treatments that can get rid of cancer that has spread to the liver are pretty amazing.
NCI has even more (Score:5, Insightful)
This is the interesting part, I thought: "The researchers also have isolated TCRs that recognize common cancers other than melanoma."
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Re:bbc has more info (Score:4, Insightful)
So you fifteen unknown others... thanks for volunteering.
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Re:bbc has more info (Score:4, Informative)
X.
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Using the body's immune system (Score:5, Insightful)
This approch does require a lot of work (tailoring a particular patient's T-cells to a particular cancer), so it's not a cheap fix. It also requires the patient's immune system to cooperate and do it's thing, something that only happened in 2 of the 17 patients. Still, to get complete remission where there was no hope is extremely promising. My guess is that we'll see more of this.
Basically if the human race can do two things: 1) Regrow organs that have worn out and 2) cure cancer, we'll live for a very long time.
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Add to the list the banning of trans-fats in food and we need to get to the bottom of this plastic bottle thing (that leach chemicals into their contents and then you ingest them..)
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I also remember when canned drinks (beer) had removable tabs.
Re:Using the body's immune system (Score:5, Interesting)
Although only 2 of 17 patients recovered, if this was an initial human trial, then all the scientists were looking for was toxicity effects in people who were otherwise pretty much beyond any other medical treatment. i.e. people with cancer so advanced, that a treatment like this probably wouldn't make them any worse.
Hopefully when this method of treating cancer is applied to people whose tumors are not so advanced, the results will be far more effective.
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You've made me all emotional now... arse.
Re:Using the body's immune system (Score:5, Funny)
Meaninglessly, unless we can determine the mechanisms of senility and treat/prevent them. Personally, I'd love to live forever, but only if I can be guaranteed to not become a crazy old coot who thinks his toothbrush is stealing money from his wallet while he sleeps.
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Countries with ageing populations like Japan have already done a lot of research into the causes of and prevention of senility. As I recall, the upshot was that if a mind isn't used, it atrophies. They put senior citizens into education programs and get them playing computer games, seems to work well so far.
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That's the thing - will simply regrowing the brain or causing new neurons to form actually have the effect of staving off senility? If neurons in certain pathways die, will having new neurons appear in random locations, not connected to anything, will that result in any improvement? What will your mind, your consciousness be like when 50% of the neurons within it are new ones you didn't have when you were born?
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Okay, I realize that there is humor value in this, but I was actually speaking from experience. I went to go visit childhood friend's grandfather (our families are close) and at the age of 105, he really *does* think everyone and occasionally, some things, are stealing from him. It's gotten to the
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I think that is my new goal in life.
Lazy foreign toothbrushes, looking all smug in their stupid little cup. Sneaking money out of my wallet when I'm not looking I SEE YOU! A conspiracy, I tell you, CONSPIRACY!
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Sure, if we don't kill each other first.
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It's a tightrope walk (Score:2, Insightful)
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I dunno, I listened to this story on NPR last night, and the NIH crew has been working on this for over twenty years. Their initial research showed successful results about 15% of the time, and this latest study shows successful results...11% of the time. Granted it's a small sample size, but I'm really not convinced they're making a whole lot of progress. Too bad, it's an interesting technique, I hope they can figure out how to make it scale.
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Virtually all cancer treatments are dangerous.
X.
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Well, the way I see, you've got nothing to lose by trying. Either way, the worst result is that you'll die. And that's guaranteed anyhow.
Great news. (Score:2, Interesting)
It seems odd that you would use chemotherapy described in the article as being something that wipes out your immune system, and then try to use a treatment that relies entirely on your immune system being effective. Maybe thats part of the treatment, but it seems like you would want your immune system at 100% for this process to work.
These articles always make me wonder if
Re:Great news. (Score:4, Informative)
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Overrated parent. RTFA? BS. RMFP. (Score:2)
This RTFA crap is thrown around WAY too much.
I never denied that the article said that, or that it was not correct to do it this way, I just said it seems counterintuitiv
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Just think of it as a hard reboot for your immune system. Then the newly developed anti-badthingys can go after what has infested your system
Abstract (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/11
I thought it was interesting how the lymphocytes stuck around for about a year. I thought they would have either died or kicked the gene out by then...
Elias Zerhouni (Score:5, Funny)
My heart goes out to them. (Score:5, Insightful)
-Loyal
Yea.... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm going to be trying to get better contact info for the people doing this research and forward it to my cousin and the family facing brain cancer.
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Interferon (Score:3, Interesting)
My father had/has stage 4 Melanoma. He went into remmision from high dose interferon and dmx clinical and NIH. BTW the study found no statisical improvement over just high dose interferon.
quick wiki link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma [wikipedia.org]
Treatment will get better (Score:3, Insightful)
On a related note... (Score:2)
Statistical confidence (Score:2, Interesting)
With a simple confidence interval calculation we get that with a sample size of 17 from a population of 1000 we get that with 95% confidence the results are 2+-2.6 of 17. Obviously 0 is within the error margin, so it is quite possible the results are just by chance.
I have been trying to locate some information on what the motivation was for releasing such a weak result - in case I had missed something. I have failed to find any menti
Re:Statistical confidence (Score:4, Insightful)
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You don't have the information required to make this computation. Without knowing spontaneous remission rates you don't have any kind of probability distribution to start working from. There is no "simple confidence interval comp
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Mixed feelings (Score:2)
Cancer really sucks. I hope this pans out.
One question (Score:2)
This is just a technique, expect more later (Score:2, Informative)
The method mentioned is a technique - it increases the rate, and is
Great news (Score:3, Informative)
It was too late for him, but hopefully not for the thousands who die from melanoma every year.
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It's hardly insignificant if you're the guy with something else expected to be terminal that the new technique can cure, or family or friend of that guy.