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Study Says Coffee Protects Against Cirrhosis

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Tue Jun 13, 2006 05:31 PM
from the irish-coffee-all-around dept.
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An anonymous reader writes "Good news for those who like both coffee and alcohol. In a recent study of more than 125,000 people an Oakland, CA medical team found that consuming coffee seems to help protect against alcoholic cirrhosis. The study was done based on people enrolled in a private northern California health care plan between 1978 and 1985." From the article: "People drinking one cup of coffee per day were, on average, 20% less likely to develop alcoholic cirrhosis. For people drinking two or three cups the reduction was 40%, and for those drinking four or more cups of coffee a day the reduction in risk was 80%."
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  • So glad to hear (Score:5, Funny)

    by packetmon (977047) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:33PM (#15528238) Homepage
    Being I drink about 12-16 cups a day I'm glad to know my alcholism won't be doing much to me. I think I'll have a shot now followed by some starbucks

  • Fox coverage (Score:5, Informative)

    by WinEveryGame (978424) * <(moc.liamg) (ta) (emagyreveniw)> on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:34PM (#15528244) Homepage
    I just heard unbelievably bad coverage on this report on Fox. The "expert" said:

    This report proves coffee is good, and tea is bad

    hmm.. perhaps Starbucks is involved somewhere..

  • How about... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by GenKreton (884088) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:34PM (#15528247) Journal
    we drink neither and break our social and behavioral substance dependencies.

    • Re:How about... (Score:5, Funny)

      by Sponge Bath (413667) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:45PM (#15528332)
      You first. Tell us how that works out.
      • Don't start and you'll never have to stop.
        • You could have just said your a cheap tight ass. ;)

          I ahve no idea where you get 10 dollars a day.

          Drinking coffee != going to starbucks.

          Drinking beer != drinking everynight.

          The half life of caffine in the human body. If you go to bed at nine, just stop drinking coffee by about 2PM.

          People who drink beers != drinking to excess or becomeng unihibited.

          Please don't push your misconceptions about something you do not do onto others in some holier then tho way.
    • we drink neither and break our social and behavioral substance dependencies.

      There's something to be said about "breaking substance dependencies" being modded funny

      Then again, those of us that live in glass houses....

    • Re:How about... (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I'll drink to that.

    • Re:How about... (Score:5, Funny)

      by Soko (17987) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @06:00PM (#15528434) Homepage
      You'll get my whiskey, smokes and coffee when... err...

      Let's rephrase that.

      Try and take them away, and I'll get my whiskey, smokes and coffee back out of your cold dead hands.

      Soko
    • On a serious vein, it shouldn't even be necessary to point out that this is hardly free license from a health standpoint to hit the bottle hard every night, then clear up the headache and the liver the next morning with a triple frapa-mocha-something-or-another the next morning, but I'm going to say it anyway.

      This would be like a condensed version of the running joke with modern pharmeceutical products: Take one of pill A before bed to cure your insomnia. Then take one of pill B to prevent indigestion ca

  • Of course (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TJ_Phazerhacki (520002) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `naidmolle'> on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:35PM (#15528254) Journal
    Those drinking that many cups a day complained of chronic heartburn, discolored teeth, an inability to sleep correctly, and of course there's the addictive aspect.

    What doesn't kill you today only makes you stronger - until they find out that it too can kill you!

    • I enjoy food so hot it makes others cry from 10 metres and I don't even know what "heartburn" actually is, my teeth are just fine thank you, and sleep is for pussies. Just finishing up pot #2 for today, like most every other day.

      Feel free to make up whatever bullshit makes you feel good about yourself though.

  • Thanks study (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CrazyJim1 (809850) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:35PM (#15528256) Journal
    This is not a recommendation to drink coffee, nor is it a recommendation that the way to deal with heavy alcohol consumption is to drink more coffee,"
    Ah yes, but does the study conclude that if I drink a lot of coffee that I am entitled to drink a lot of alcohol now?
  • That will be good to remember then when I'm having my caffeine induced coronary .
    • That will be good to remember then when I'm having my caffeine induced coronary .

      I heard alcohol helps to mitigate heart attacks.

      Hey wait a minute... :-/

  • All I can say is.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Maxo-Texas (864189) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:36PM (#15528265)
    Set me up with another Irish coffee barkeep, heavy on the Irish!

  • Slashdot Gesserit (Score:5, Funny)

    by Tackhead (54550) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:37PM (#15528269)
    From the .sig file...

    I must drink beer.
    Beer is the painkiller.
    And beer is the little drink that brings total satisfaction.
    I will drink my beer.
    I will permit it to pass through me.
    And where the beer has gone there will be nothing.
    Only a hangover will remain.

    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,
    It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
    The hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning,
    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

  • Study with 21 year old data? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by wpmegee (325603) <wpmegee AT yahoo DOT com> on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:37PM (#15528274)
    Does it bother anyone else that the data in question is 21 years old? 1985 seems like an eternity ago - this from a guy born in 1982. I'm not a statistician or a doctor, but couldn't there have been a myriad of things that happened in between 1985 and now? Furthermore, if you drink coffee, most people I know drink at least 2 cups daily so I'm not sure you can draw any meaningful distinctions between 1 and 2 cups. Also, what about other caffeine sources like soda?
    • It's not the cafffffffffffffffeine. Definitely notttttttt the caffeiiine.

    • Re:Study with 21 year old data? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:48PM (#15528351)
      I don't think humans have evolved enough over the last 21 years to have changed the influence of alcohol and caffeine :-)
      That being said, I also question that it should take that long to conclude on the data collected.
      • "That being said, I also question that it should take that long to conclude on the data collected."

        Arguably the most important part of the data (how many of the subjects went on to develop cirrhosis) could only be collected very recently. Were you expecting them to just guess how many would eventually get the disease?

    • It's kind of hard to study long term effects of something with a short term sample size.

      You do raise a good point, however: How do we know it's not something else that happened in that time? That's why you look at large numbers and correlations between those numbers. That's also why it's not absolute or definite. Coffee is linked to this, but it's not set it stone. More studies and experiments will need to be done to determine what, if anything, caused this condition.

    • Re:Study with 21 year old data? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Pedrito (94783) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:55PM (#15528402) Homepage
      Also, what about other caffeine sources like soda?

      As is pointed out in the study, they don't know that caffeine is the cause. Coffee is loaded with all kinds of bioactive chemicals and it could be any of them. It could even be the cream or sugar people sometimes put in coffee. So the fact is, they have no idea why this is the case. What they'll probably need to do is kill a few hundred mice and rats with booze and coffee to figure out why and how it works.

      As for the age of the data, it isn't really that old. It takes time to develop alcoholic cirrhosis and they're basically using historical data to determine who got it and who didn't and based on a questionnaire they filled out at the time of their enrollment in the health care plan, they were able to determine their coffee and alcohol habits. That said, a lot of alcoholics don't admit how much they drink on those kinds of things, so I'm not entirely sure how they can measure the accuracy. Alcoholics usually admit their drinking habits after the evidence is so obvious they can't hide it (like after they've developed alcoholic cirrhosis).
  • Drew Carey is a genuis!

  • In other news... (Score:5, Funny)

    by fm6 (162816) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:41PM (#15528297) Homepage Journal
    Encasing your body in concrete has been shown to reduce your risk of injury due to personal assault.

  • Cirrhosis specifics (Score:5, Informative)

    by Morinaga (857587) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:42PM (#15528303)
    I'm not too proud to admit I wasn't sure exactly what Cirrhosis of the liver was despite hearing the jargon several times in the past. Here's some reference.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cirrhosis/DS00373 [mayoclinic.com]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_liver_cirrh osis [wikipedia.org]

  • The Joys of Coffee (Score:4, Interesting)

    by TylerTheGreat (848804) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:45PM (#15528329)
    NPR also ran this story [npr.org] earlier today saying that people who drink 2 cups of coffee are better listeners than those who don't. We've been drinking this stuff for how long and we're just now figuring this stuff out? What will they find out next?
  • This just confirms something that many of us have known for years: beer and coffee have a very precise balance in the body. If you throw the balance off, then you feel like crap.

    That's why before your first coffee of the morning, you feel bad. Then, you feel good once you've had your coffee. But by the time late-afternoon rolls around, you definitely feel like crap again and go for a beer. The beer makes you feel better until you go to bed. Rinse and repeat.

  • Wait 10 days.... (Score:3, Funny)

    by rehashed (948690) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:45PM (#15528336)
    .... then a paper will be published on how coffee is a primary cause of cirrhosis

  • Good Good! GOOD!!! (Score:4, Funny)

    by DAldredge (2353) <SlashdotEmail@GMail.Com> on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:52PM (#15528380) Journal
    Caffine GOOD!

    No negative effects@!!!!

    NONE NONE!!!!

    Caffine GOOD!!!!

  • Ohhhh... (Score:3, Funny)

    by supabeast! (84658) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:58PM (#15528422)
    Well, this explains why Grampa isn't dead yet. We were wondering...

  • Merely correlation? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by neatfoote (951656) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @06:28PM (#15528575)
    Based on the way that study is described, it doesn't sound as though the data necessarily supports a clear-cut causality between coffee-drinking and cirrhosis reduction. They based the results on a questionnaire, after all, and many of those are far too broad (and too sloppily answered) to give precise data about an individual's real consumption of either alcohol or coffee.

    The most that this data proves is a correlation between higher reported coffee consumption and reduced cirrhosis-- and there are a ton of other reasons why that might be the case. Maybe heavy drinkers of alcohol tend to under-report their consumption of other harmful substances (like caffeine) out of guilt. Maybe higher caffeine consumption makes heavy drinkers drink a little less. Maybe coffee-drinking indicates a more white-collar lifestyle, which in turn might indicate better education and healthier life habits, any of which might itself be responsible for the diminished cirrhosis. As usual, the pop-sci treatment jumps to an easy causal conclusion that's far from being warranted by the facts.

  • Well duh! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Alsee (515537) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @06:36PM (#15528615) Homepage
    Well duh!

    If you're drinking two cups of coffee with your Cheerios at breakfast, that's two Martinis that you're not drinking with your Cheerios at breakfast.

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  • but i'm sure a lot of people forgot about this one already.. if you're gonna drink til you pass out remember to have a pot of joe in the morning to cure the hangover and keep your liver alive ;)
  • Coffee gives me a similar length word with two 'r' in it.

  • Have to update the old joke (Score:3, Funny)

    by Ungrounded Lightning (62228) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @09:56PM (#15529446) Journal
    Have to update the old joke about the ineffectiveness of using coffee to sober up.

    Q: What do you get when you feed coffee to a drunk?
    A: A wide-awake drunk (with a healthy liver.)

    • Re:for alcoholics (Score:5, Funny)

      by Le Marteau (206396) on Tuesday June 13 2006, @05:52PM (#15528382) Homepage Journal
      Oh! Thank you, kind citizen! I was not aware that alcohol could hurt me, until your insightful comment! How can I ever repay you? You are a true humanitarian, and your wisdom knows no bounds! You have re-affirmed my faith in humanity!

      Signed,

      - An Alcoholic

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