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Hypoallergenic Cats

Posted by Zonk on Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:33 PM
from the good-use-of-science dept.
Lambticc writes "The BBC is running an article about how a US firm has successfully bred cats to reduce the production of the protein which causes an allergic reaction. Since the result was achieved through selective breeding, there should not be any complaints from the anti-GM lobby." From the article: "The cats will not cause the red eyes, sneezing and even asthma that some cat allergy sufferers experience, except in the most acute cases. Despite costing $3,950 (£2,104), there is already a waiting list to get one. Allerca first started taking orders for genetically engineered hypoallergenic cats back in 2004."
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  • Dupe (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:34PM (#16180755)
    You already reported it in 2004 [slashdot.org].
    • by Psykechan (255694) on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:37PM (#16180781)
      Get yours now from petsovernight.com [petsovernight.com].
    • Re:Dupe (Score:4, Informative)

      by TekPolitik (147802) on Monday September 25 2006, @12:34AM (#16181391) Journal
      It wasn't even new then. There's an entire breed, called Siberians, that have been known to have this quality. All that seems to have happened here is selective cross-breading to get it into other more conventional species.
      • Why this is news (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Moraelin (679338) on Monday September 25 2006, @06:13AM (#16183127) Journal
        Well, this is obviously good news anyway for people who don't want a Siberian.

        1. Have you seen a Siberian? The Siberian isn't just another body shape or fur pattern, it's something as big as your arm. It's a _huge_ cat. It's bigger than some dog breeds. (And legends have it that some are also actually able to function as a dog, because at that size it feels a lot less threatened by someone human sized. So it _can_ defend its territory from a human, if needed. I wouldn't know if it's myth or not, though.)

        Now I'm all for large cats myself, but I can also see why someone would want a standard 5 pound lap cat instead.

        2. The Siberian isn't anywhere near allergen-free. In fact, no natural cat breed is, from moggie to lions and tigers. The Siberian does produce a lot less allergen, but for some people it's still too much. So producing cats with even less, would still be welcome news for a lot of people.

        3. The Siberian only has less of the cat-speciffic protein. I.e., it won't help anyone whose allergy is to something else. E.g., someone with a generic allergy to fur, will still be just as allergic to the Siberian as to any other cat breed. Basically, if holding a rabbit or petting a dog also gives you an allergy, getting a Siberian won't help at all.

        I don't know if this new breed addresses this third point, but it IS one area where improvement is possible.
        • she's only 8 pounds, not huge. her parents were a bit bigger, though.

          i have some pretty sensitive (not severe, just very easily activated) cat allergies, but I haven't have any symptoms with our cat. before we got her, as a test, we went to the breeder's house and i stayed in the 'cat room', with five aduts and ten kittens, for an hour - just to make sure i was symptom-free. no problem at all.

          i'm also taking Zyrtek, but that's not supposed to be all that great against pet allergies.
      • Re:Dupe (Score:4, Insightful)

        by rishistar (662278) on Monday September 25 2006, @06:36AM (#16183281) Homepage
        And what they fail to point out to the people buying these cute cuddly kittens is - what happened to the many 'unsuccessful candidates' in the breeding program?
          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by Anonymous Coward
            1. Dogs take big piles of steaming shit wherever they please. Every cat I've had finds an area of loose earth and digs a hole, covering it over after he has finished. A dominant unneutered tom may leave his faeces uncovered, but if you let such a beast roam free, you're an idiot.

            2. The cat by its temperament is unlikely to attack a human, its natural prey being always smaller than itself; when outside its own territory, if it confronts a giant, it prefers to flee. The fox, a locally populous wild creature,
  • Heh (Score:5, Funny)

    by B3ryllium (571199) on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:34PM (#16180759) Homepage
    But when will they finally breed the North American House Hippo!? Huh? That's what I want to know.
    • Our friend Mr. Evolution actually created those, and elephants the size of dogs. I kid you not. Weird things happen to creatures stranded on islands. Sometimes they get really large (the Dodo), sometimes they get really small (tiny elephants and hippos). Unfortunately for those pet lovers out there, our distant ancestors found these island species and ate them all. Kinda reminds me of Futurama and the last can of sardines.
      • Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)

        by Mistshadow2k4 (748958) on Sunday September 24 2006, @11:29PM (#16181105) Journal
        they already do, you can usually find them eating at macdonalds, or any other fast food joint. beware though, if they get ahold of your credit cards, they will spend it all at the mall, and some wont put out, till after you put a ring on thier finger
        Another variety sits around in its underwear all day, watching TV while drinking beer and refuses to help out around the house.
  • Patents? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by giminy (94188) on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:36PM (#16180769) Homepage Journal
    I hope they annoyingly patented what they did (though I don't get how to you specifically patent selective breeding), or the first two owners of frisky felines will put them out of business.

    Maybe they'll sell one gender of cat?
    • Re:Patents? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Duckz (147715) on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:41PM (#16180811) Homepage
      You can only get spayed or neutered animals from them.
      • Good thing we live in the age of cloning!

        Only way they could (currently) close that loophole is by selling only aged and decrepit cats. Young'uns would clone nicely :)

        (sigh...You know you're a nerd when thinking about selling clones reminds you of Compaq.)
      • Well, after the recent article on part regeneration, that's hardly a problem!
      • You can only get spayed or neutered animals from them.

        And that, my friend, is why I release all of my pets under the GPL. What an outrage!
      • But you could clone a neutered hypoallergenic cat. The offspring would not be sterile.

        Of course, the "intellectual property" which is represented by the cat's genetic makeup may also be copyrighted or patented.

        Now, if you'll excuse me as I entertain Buttons(TM) here with a Laser Pointer [youtube.com](TM) until I go broke from licensing fees or fall asleep in a hypnogogic Benadryl(TM) haze [wikipedia.org]...

        la la la la la atchoo atchoo atchoo! bless me dammit i'm an atheist but i do love benadryl and cats

      • Sure, that's just good business sense for them - but it also helps reduce the number of strays on the streets, and gets people used to sterilizing their pets.
  • Well... not really. Just evolution in action, with manmade selection vs. the 'natural' kind. I like cats, but hate the allergic reactions I get from them. Sign me up.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      You might want to wait for the second model year. There's still some question about whether they're just selling cat oil or not.

      KFG
  • Breading? (Score:5, Funny)

    by dmwst30 (463874) on Sunday September 24 2006, @10:43PM (#16180827)
    Hrm...selective breading of cats...wonder how that works. Extra crispy or regular? Corn flake or bread crumb or batter? How do they keep the cats from eating it?

    ("The BBC is running an article about how a US firm has successfully bred cats to reduce the production of the protein which causes an allergic reaction. Since the result was achieved through selective breading, there should not be any complaints from the anti-GM lobby." if they fix this one)
  • I know every time I've got some pussy, I've had terrible rashes and itchiness, although I've never had to pay as much as $4,000 dollars for them.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I know every time I've got some pussy, I've had terrible rashes and itchiness, although I've never had to pay as much as $4,000 dollars for them.

      As Norm MacDonald once said:

      • Norm: How come whenever we go out it always costs me a couple hundred dollars?
      • Woman: Because I'm a prostitute.
  • Does anyone know if this gene has a desired effect besides "make humans allergic to us"? It seems there could, possibly, be side effects from this - there aren't that many species that humans are commonly allergic to, so perhaps there's a reason for this gene to exist.
    • Does anyone know if this gene has a desired effect besides "make humans allergic to us"?

      You don't think "keeping humans away" is enough of a positive side-effect in an animal gene?

  • As noted in a prior comment to Slashdot [slashdot.org], I proposed this idea to Usenet in 1992 (link to Google archive of my original article included in my prior comment.) Of course, I'm tooting my horn, but Allerca actually did it. Good luck to Allerca.
  • The real question is, though, will they taste as good?

    Good BYEEEEE karma
  • by Brad1138 (590148) <brad1138@yahoo.com> on Sunday September 24 2006, @11:29PM (#16181103)
    ACK! phftt!
  • I'll buy the damn cat if you'd just stop adversiting on slashdot every month!
  • ...breed out the gene that attracts psycho women who think they're a witch, read their stars religously every day, and treat their cat as if it were their child? On second thoughts I like having a clear sign that a chick is nuts. Without this men would fall prey to the psycho chicks more often.
  • Wake me when I can get a hyper-allergenic cat. Ideally one that's so adorable that even though it causes excruciating allergy flare ups in its owners, they can't bring themselves to get rid of it. Yes... That would be the perfect gift for those pesky in-laws...
  • by stox (131684) on Sunday September 24 2006, @11:32PM (#16181125) Homepage
    No one "owns" a cat. What they really need to say is that there are 38 million households where the cat(s) tolerate the presence of humans. In most cases, the cats will have trained their humans to fulfill their every whim.
    • by Bob Cat - NYMPHS (313647) on Sunday September 24 2006, @11:56PM (#16181229) Homepage
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      Get off my damned keyboard you whiskerfaced devil!!!
    • Actually, cats are incredibly good pets. My Mittens catches mice and insects that get into the house. They bathe themselves, and they bury their own waste, unlike dogs. They tend to have rather unique personalities. I've known more than a dozen cats in my thirty-odd years, and every single relationship has been rewarding for me, and I hope also for the cats.
    • by allanj (151784) on Monday September 25 2006, @01:19AM (#16181641)
      I've heard it like this:

      The Dog sees the Man serving food and water and generally taking care of it and loving it. The Dog concludes: "Wow, he must be God".

      The Cat sees the Man serving food and water and generally taking care of it and loving it. The Cat concludes: "Wow, I must be God".
  • Now I won't have to keep sneezing because of my fashionable homemade bag [encycloped...matica.com].
  • Why pay that much for a cat when theres plenty of dogs out there that are already hypoallergenic.
    Take the Basenji for example. It's hypoallergenic, doesn't bark, grooms itself like a cat, and dislikes water like most cats.
    And while they don't bark, they do make a yodeling type of noise.

    And, you can usually get one for quite a lot less than $4000.
  • IMHO, selective breeding is just one way of genetic modification. It does alter the DNA as well, and the difference is a matter of degree. People have practiced it for millennia, and for some weird reason it's only in recent years that we've had anti-GM activity.

    I imagine it's possible to get the same results with modern, direct GM, as these guys did with SB. In that case this is equally evil and unnatural as any GM ;)

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      No amount of natural cross-breeding will result in tomatoe vines with glow-in-the-dark fish genes.

      The anti-GM activity is due to the proliferation of new protiens in existing foods that will trigger new alergies/diseases. Also with plants once they start releasing pollen you cant control it.
  • Sphynx cats (Score:3, Informative)

    by Concerned Onlooker (473481) on Monday September 25 2006, @12:30AM (#16181377) Journal
    I know a guy who is allergic to cats, so they got a couple of sphynx cats. Hairless, so no dander problems. Look a bit like Yoda [naughty-nature.com]. In fact, kind of repulsive. And I'm a cat lover.
    • A torrent of anecdotal evidence claims that this breed, a more normal looking one, doesn't make allergic people wheeze and break out. On the other hand neither my allergist nor our late cat's vet has seen anything to confirm that in the professional literature.

      They're also very expensive.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_(cat) [wikipedia.org]
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        My experience was the opposite. I'm only very mildly affected by most cats - we have a tabby at the moment - but a few years ago we had a Siberian. We gave it away because my eyes would water so badly when I was around it. (OK, I was constantly brushing it, too, which didn't help. Unfortunately it would only let me touch him, and in fact developed such a strong attachment to me, constantly begging for attention, that it was a nuisance.)

        I had never heard this anecdotal evidence. Perhaps if I had, the

  • Hypoallergenic (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Registered Coward v2 (447531) on Monday September 25 2006, @01:13AM (#16181589)
    Interestingly, it's a marketting term - it has no legal meaning per the FDA, which is why cosmetic companies feel free to use it; they are not saying you won't be allergic to this or that any FDA approved testing has been done. Yet people think it means something so they buy hypoallergenic products.

    As one marketeer put it during a presentation - "My job is great - I sell a product that is 90% air and people pay a premium for it!!"
  • by mi (197448) <mi+slashdot@aldan.algebra.com> on Monday September 25 2006, @10:22AM (#16185753) Homepage

    We have been "genetically modifying" animals through selective breeding for millenia.

    It is not neccessary to introduce bits of cells (the narrow understanding of "GM") from other things to modify genes.

    If agriculture was invented today, it would've been banned...

    • he's right (Score:4, Funny)

      by r00t (33219) on Monday September 25 2006, @09:20AM (#16184797) Journal
      Small cats belong in North Africa, maybe China, and areas generally around there. They do not belong in the New World or on any island.

      Yeah, there are other predators. Owls are dying because cats eat all the easy prey!

      Humans cause mass extinction, sure... by supporting cats. This is especially bad near beaches, because that is where people like to live. Rare beach mice are going extinct. Without them, the beach grass dies and then the beach erodes.

      • These cats were already domesticated, and the mice they occasionally feed on are domesticated, this is just the next step.
    • Surplus cats were sent to universities worldwide for helping out with the quantum computing effort. They go through a lot of cats that way...