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The Worst Jobs in Science

Posted by CowboyNeal on Sat Nov 08, 2003 07:29 PM
from the grass-not-always-greener dept.
unassimilatible writes "Popular Science is running a story on the most noxious jobs in science, including, fart-sniffer, barnyard masturbator, and prison-rape researcher, and my personal favorite, the pre-med student who ate, drank, and breathed the blood, urine and vomit of yellow-fever victims. So before you complain about your tech job, check out the list. Things could always be worse."
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  • by corebreech (469871) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:29PM (#7426120) Journal
    I wish that some of the accounts offered by victims of prison-rape--particularly those that caused the students so much anxiety--were made public.

    Maybe then we'd see less people here (and elsewhere) resorting to sick and degrading humor whenever the subject comes up.

    And check out the pictogram they chose to accompany the prison-rape researcher entry in this story. It's a picture of Barney. I know they're using it as a way of depicting which of the jobs are associated with psychological torture, but, c'mon! Barney? Prison-rape? That's just soooo wrong.
    • I think the general public knows about prison rape but just does not care. Not too many people feel sorry for prisoners. I for one do not get upset to hear that some child molester is now taking it in the behind himself. I can't wait for the moral relativists (especially ACs) to reply to this post.
      • by Hatta (162192) on Saturday November 08 2003, @08:11PM (#7426318) Journal
        You sir, are the relativist. Rape is wrong. Period.
      • See, that's what I don't get about you "criminals deserve what they get" types. For every inmate who gets bum-raped there is another inmate doing the raping! Presumably loving it, and getting away with it scott free. How does this fit in with your grand crime and punishment scheme?
        • by Joe Tie. (567096) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:41PM (#7426195)
          Same here. Aren't most of the people in there for drug offences, not violent crime? Violent anal rape every day for ten years is a pretty harsh punishment for getting caught with a bag of pot.
        • by GuyMannDude (574364) on Saturday November 08 2003, @08:33PM (#7426406) Journal

          I don't feel sorry for the murderers, rapists, and child molesters.

          I know I'm gonna get flamed for this...

          First of all, even when someone is convicted of one of these crimes we never know with 100% certainty that the guy really is guilty. There have been a few rape convictions that have been overturned in recent years based on DNA testing that proved the poor shmuck who spent the last 10 years in jail getting gangraped every day was innocent all along. Do you feel sorry for that particular 'rapist'?

          As far as child molesters go, I think it's fairly well accepted at this point that many of these people were victims of child molestation themselves. The early abuse caused irreperable changes in their brain chemistry which made them more likely to commit deviant acts. Obviously, we need these freaks off the street since they can never be rehabilitated. But I'm not sure that sentencing them to a lifetime of being raped is really the right thing to do.

          There is a reason we have the clause "unusual punishment" in our legal system. Our rehabilitation system thinks it's pretty clever by not performing the abuse themselves but turning a blind eye when prisoners do it to each other. But prison rape is something that no prisoner should have to endure, regardless of what crime they were convicted of.

          GMD

            • by GuyMannDude (574364) on Saturday November 08 2003, @10:05PM (#7426727) Journal

              ...I'm sure that I wouldn't mind Osama being ass raped if he ever gets caught.

              And why is that? Because our wonderfully accurate intelligence has pegged him as the mastermind behind 9/11? The same crack team of analysts who brought us the "Iraq is developing a huge WMD program" info? It's easy to bring up Osama because it triggers such a violent response in all of us, myself included. However, I submit to you that Osama and the 9/11 event is really just a larger version of what I was saying before: we'll never know 100% if he was responsible or not.

              Anyhow, I'm not going to expend an awful lot of effort trying to defend that bastard. I'm just pointing out that making exceptions for special cases is pretty dangerous. Sure, there are some people who I'd like to see endure torture for the rest of their lives. But it's important to realize that such thoughts are not rational and while they might be amusing little fantasies for us to play in our heads, that's really where they should stay.

              GMD

            • Yes, I am an asshole.

              No no no.. The politically correct way of saying the same thing is, as follows:

              Yes, I am a Republican.
              • Wow, I guess nobody got the joke.

                It was the republican party who pushed for stricter laws, they were the ones who decided to push the War on Drugs issue. Bush refers to 'Texas Justice' and talks about being harsh on criminals.

                All I ever hear from that party is about how to go about locking more people up. Sorry, but if you are going to all jump in and mod someone as a troll for putting 2 + 2 together, then go ahead. You are wasting your mod points silencing me instead of investing into your own comment or
            • by Chris Burke (6130) on Sunday November 09 2003, @11:20AM (#7428857) Homepage
              Wrongly jailing people is always a potential problem but it certainly does not detract my lack of feeling bad for the vast majority of people who are in prison.

              Yes, the institutionalized rape of innocent people is a "potential problem". So is the rape of people who are not innocent but committed a crime for which not even you could justify rape as punishment. Too bad the prison rapists don't ask everyone "are you innocent?" first.

              But apparently you think rape is the correct punishment for the vast majority of people in prison. So having a bag of dope is worth repeated ass rape?

              I dunno, I'm no doctor but I'm willing to bet that being violently raped a few times in prison would certainly help reverse some of that irreversible brain chemistry.

              Easy to bet on something you know nothing about when it isn't your ass, isn't it? I'm willing to bet that you getting gang-raped day after day for a month would change your mind about whether this is something we should be allowing to happen in our prisons, but I'm not going advocate it.

              If for nothing else I am certain that it would make some of these rapists think twice about what they're doing. Yes they have these urges but after being the victim of their own crime they very well might decide to try harder to resist the urges.

              Why are ignorance and certainty found together so often? As the post you replied to already pointed out -- many already are victims. Being victims is why they become perpetrators, but genius tzanger wants to do this to more people. Like bombing a civilian populace to get rid of terrorists; how well do you really think this is going to work? But if you're so keen on it, why wait until prison? Why not rape them when they show up in the juvenile home after Daddy gets sent up the river so you can "fix" them before they commit any crime? Half the time they end up in prison from there anyway. You can call it "early prevention".

              I tend to agree but as I get older and see more and more bullshit babying and coddling of the convicted and worrying more about them than their victims I tend to start thinking that these people deserve some of their own medicine.

              Oh, right. "Hey, they get cable TV! The only way to balance out this amazing luxury is with repeated anal rape!"

              But frankly, with people like you advocating sexual torture as a deterrent, I think the worrying about the convicted is justified.

              While a murderer is certainly not a rapist is certainly not an arms trafficker, prison rape is brutal enough to sway people's consciences and not normally deadly.

              Because brutalizing people always make them become nicer, happier people. But you're right! I can't see how being violated and then having the authorities do nothing about it and an apathetic populace say "you deserved it" would not change one's conscience. It's just not going to change in the way you think.

              Yes, I am an asshole.

              No you're not. "Asshole" is the guy who takes up three spots at Java Noodles at lunch with his Ford Excursion. You, my friend, are a sick fuck.
                  • That's pretty sick...
                    You bet. But catching bad (or shall we say, horrible) parents is not as sexy as busting a paedophile ring (whatever it is). It doesn't help sell more copies of your newspaper, doesn't boost your ratings, doesn't look as cool on cop's resume. In short, real child abuse is booooring. Paedophiles and child porn users (or, rather, combating them), on the other hand, are considered glamourous by the society.

                    So if, in our imaginary scenario, I fuck my 5-year old daughter and you look at the
        • It's so interesting how people long for vengeance... It really does seem to be quite a common human desire. I myself often desire vengeance against those I feel have wronged me.

          Is it always advantageous, though? Does ass rape of prisoners really make them less likely to commit crimes in the future? Maybe, it makes them think I don't want to go back to prison again. Maybe it just makes them really fucking pissed off and crazy. A lot of research suggests that those who are victims of sexual abuse beco
      • by bigman2003 (671309) on Saturday November 08 2003, @09:09PM (#7426559) Homepage
        Before I read the article, I thought this was Barney from Half-Life...you know, the guard. That made sense, because he doesn't seem like a very good guard, and he probably would just overlook prison rape.

        Too bad they didn't use him, it would have made more sense for me at least.
        • You haven't *seen* them, because they're Radio Ads. I'm not sure if the LCBO (government run alcohol distributer) or Ministry of Transport is putting them on, but they have been airing all summer 03 on 97.7 FM in the Toronto area, and other stations as well.

          One starts off describing a shower scene, supposedly after some sporting event, where the "team" is washing off the grime, except it turns out that is a prison shower: "This is no big deal, except when the next guy is checking you out... Drink, drive,

  • by linuxbaby (124641) * on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:30PM (#7426128)
    I'm surprised the previous post of this story [slashdot.org] didn't make an impression on CoyboyNeal!
  • by apoplectic (711437) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:32PM (#7426139)
    I think the worst job has to be the poor webmaster that has to keep track of reposts of articles on his site. Not only boring, but apparently quite a challenge....
    • I think the worst job has to be the poor webmaster that has to keep track of reposts of articles on his site. Not only boring, but apparently quite a challenge....

      Testing sample #7327. Sniff, sniff. Ohhh yes. Hmmm. Sniff. Yes. I think I smelled this fart 3 months ago. Comparing with sample #3984; sample #3985; sample #3986 - match! OK, discard this...

      Testing sample #7328...
  • by Skyshadow (508) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:32PM (#7426143) Homepage
    heh.

    Once again, I will point out that the best thing about this article is the icons they use to denote the various levels of suckage.

  • I swear, there have been more dupes [slashdot.org] in the past few months. At least this one is 2 months old.
    • I swear, there have been more posts about dupes in the past few months. Oh wait. There have been more dupes, and a dupe always results in at least 10-15 posts about dupes. And the obligatory post by me pointing out the posts about dupes.
  • Is slashdot dupe story checker on the list?
  • by Davak (526912) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:33PM (#7426150) Homepage
    pre-med student who ate, drank, and breathed the blood, urine and vomit of yellow-fever victims

    Medical students used to be willing to submit to multiple medical studies to get a "leg up" in the research world. Today, medical students usually willingly submit purely for financial reasons... these drug companies are willing to pay a lot of medicine.

    In medical school I tested a certain blood pressure medicine... and it gave me a certain "standing at attention" side effect. I always wondered if that drug was a pre-market version of viagra.

    Anyway, I got wood and $50 bucks out of it. :)

    Davak
    • In medical school I tested a certain blood pressure medicine... and it gave me a certain "standing at attention" side effect. I always wondered if that drug was a pre-market version of viagra.

      Reportedly, Viagra (Sildanefil) was originally intended to lower blood pressure. They conducted trials, but it didn't work. They discovered the side effects when patients refused to give back leftover pills and even requested more.

    • by Hatta (162192) on Saturday November 08 2003, @08:08PM (#7426304) Journal
      I've been testing an anti-glaucoma medication for 5 years, all out of pocket. Damn, I need a grant.
  • ... well now I've got just a little bit more...

    Doing my PhD, there was a room in Biophysics with a bed in it that students went into every day and did a herman-munster-type walk out of at the end of the day... It wasn't my project but I do recall seeing them wired up and strapped down one day when the door was left open... I thought that was dodgy enough!

    Simon.
  • by ksdd (634242) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:38PM (#7426177)
    ...I have to wholeheartedly agree with their icon choice for "psychological torture." There are some things you can learn to block out - Barney is not one of them.
  • At first glance I did have the 'ewww!' reaction to quite a few of these. But think about it, a lot of these seem better than dealing with the frustrating bureaucracy most of us have to go through. I'd much rather count fish, or even clean a rotting carcass than have to deal with most of the stuff highlighted in office space. Of course if you have to deal with that 'and' the worst job scenarios...well, that would suck.
  • by Stile 65 (722451) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:40PM (#7426186) Homepage Journal
    Yeah, those are some of the worst jobs in science. I'm sure there are just as many bad jobs in other fields, too.

    I have a friend that breeds and shows dogs. She can't neuter them, because that would kill their future value. So when she takes a male dog to a dog show where it's exposed to unspayed female dogs in heat, she has to do the same duty as the barnyard masturbator to make sure the dog doesn't go hump anything. I was somewhat amused when she told me about this, but I'm glad I don't have to do it. (Docuporn title comes to mind: "Uncensored - Backstage at the Dog Show!")

    I can imagine some years ago one of the worst jobs in tech (although people didn't necessarily know it) was running cabling through old asbestos-laden buildings. Not healthy at all.
  • I live in amsterdam and I reckon this guy should have got a mention...

    Of course it's not a scientific job, but it still rates a mention.
  • frontend to /. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by lysander (31017) on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:42PM (#7426199)
    and I shall make a new frontend to slashdot. one that is screened by people who actually read slashdot content -- or at least the front page summary -- and hides dupes. a url matcher could also help. perhaps it could also generate a "dupe report card" for the article posters.

    (I'd need some serious bandwidth, though.)

    geez, come slashdot. perhaps you could give your "article preview subscribers" a big DUPE button to click to save yourself from embarrassment time and time again.
  • by DCowern (182668) * on Saturday November 08 2003, @07:45PM (#7426214) Homepage

    So before you complain about your tech job, check out the list. Things could always be worse.

    I am the pre-med student who ate, drank, and breathed the blood, urine and vomit of yellow-fever victims, you insensitive clod!

    Oh... wait... wrong section. :-)

  • Testing radiation suits.

    Testing bio-suits.

    Testing beekeeper suits.

    Testing smoked glass for eclipse-viewing safety.

    Testing new flavors of Coke/Pepsi.
  • by geeklawyer (85727) on Saturday November 08 2003, @09:13PM (#7426579) Homepage Journal
    Applicant: "So tell me about the job."
    Lab HR: "you jerk off animals all day"
    Applicant: "oh God!"
    Applicant: "erm, what's the money?"
    Lab HR: "$10,000 a year"

    Applicant: "Ok, I'll do it...
    but you'll have to give me time to raise the $10,000"

  • by cvd6262 (180823) on Saturday November 08 2003, @11:16PM (#7426977)
    I was at Sea World once and I was walking by the Killer Whale pool. There were some trainers feeding and apparently taking blood samples of Shamu and co.

    When we saw the show they had played a video on the jumbotron about the program at Sea World and how they've bread more orca than anybody else. They mentioned that every calf was artificially inseminated.

    Of course, this begs the obvious question... Where does the, er, sperm com from?

    As I was just about the ask one of the trainers, she made a signal to a whale that I gues meant "hey, baby" because the huge male floated on his side and, well, showed his manhood.

    The trainer pulled out a padded, 6-inch PVC pipe with handles and proceeded to service the beast. When she was done, she gave the animal a big handful of fish as a "reward". I really wonder how much training they have to go through before the males respond.
    • ... really wonder how much training they have to go through before the males respond.

      I'd rather have someone respond than be modded up.


      I realize you didn't think about your sig when you added that last sentence. But now don't you wish you hadn't?

      (It's a joke, laugh.)
    • If a beautiful girl calls me over to her house to repair her vibrator... I am not sure that would be a horrible job.

      She would probably be pretty excited to see me. /pun mode off

      Davak